Does the opponent have to be in his prime? If not, how close to his prime? Is there a certain age the opponent must be? Does the opponent have to have a certain ranking?
There are no hard and fast rules and it's not something that is going to be categorized in a hurry. Obviously if someone is shot all bets are off but there are too many variables.
Always be very skeptical of somebody who predicts that a fighter will lose, then doesn't give them credit when they win!
I always thought the road warriors in the sport were never appreciated enough. Lots of guys need that home cooking and it is a different risk fighting a good fighter in their backyard.
You have to argue for it. Others will argue against it. It's a conversation. Take into account the opponent's age, their career trajectory, their accomplishments, their place in history, their record, their weight, their age, how their style meshed with the fighter in question. Build out the context. Nuance is your friend. You can tear down anyone. You can build anybody up. Also, and this is lost on a lot of people, discuss it in relative terms. Read critiques of opposition in relative terms as well. A good win for a journeyman is different from a good win for a prospect. The same can be said for a contender, a champion, a P4P fighter, an ATG. The standards become a lot more strict as you increase in stature. There's one thread celebrating Henry Maske and another calling RJJ a can crushing fraud. We're too kind to fighters we like. We're too hard on fighters we dislike. Sometimes we're just exaggerating to overcorrect for hype or to stir people up. At the end of the day, there have been hundreds of thousands of boxers. Maybe a million. The few whose careers we continue to litigate to this day are worthwhile for a reason. It's something to celebrate. Spending too much time trying to tear down fighters isn't good for anybody.
It has to be a prime ATG, atleast a weight division higher. Naturally losing to a fighter a weight division lower, disqualifies them as being an ATG, so in fact, no boxer ever has had a good win.
What on Earth is a bad win. I preferred winning to losing. Simple really. Plus I hurt less after a win.
The arrogance of people on here who have never put on a glove and don't understand what they are watching is astounding.
To be fair David, if they haven't fought it's not a crime. If I was in that position I would be asking too.
Unfortunately it seems fans these days are more and more like that. The current boxing scene has a toxic fanbase which is unfortunately driven by bigotry and insecurity.
