What determines an "ATG"?

Mainly accomplishments. Skill is a big factor also, but boxers can under-achieve, or over-achieve in this department. Fighting in an era, division where other good/great boxers operate...so luck basically.

 

Years that you were the best in your division(s), years you were considered a pound for pound great fighter, times you defended your titles, and other great fighters you beat.



Keith

 

How many ATG"s have been knocked out in the first round of a fight???? Can someone school me with a little history on this question?

 

Manny Pacquiao.

 

When a fighter gets a lot of haters, discreditors, accusers like this poster, you are most definitely an

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his only 2 kos have been in the 3rd round when he was fighting in asia and had no good trainers/managers like everyone else in america

 

knowing how to win after you lose
rematching the guy who beat you
fighting someone thats elite when you could have fought a lesser guy for the same amount of money (sturm)
longevity
fighting top guys more often that not
fighting often and not 1, 2 times a year

 

:huh When did that happen?

 

He atleast should be retired for a few years.
The way things are going, people are nominating current fighters, like Pac, as soon as he has a few impressive fights --- like the Hatton knockout.
Meanwhile the guy is going to quit and hide behind those laurels.
Definatel not ATG material.
Has to do much more like beat PBF.
That fight wont happen.
He refuses drug testing to avoid the risk of his humiliation.

 

What determines an "ATG"?

Internet trolls.

 

Skills shown on tape against peers. Resume isnt as important. An example is if you watch a great fighter versus a really good fighter you should clearly be able to see the difference in boxing attributes without knowing the names of the fighters.

 

:huh So you're saying Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Muhammad Ali are not ATGs? Don't recall there being an internet in those days.

 

Ask Nallege.
He is a certified Manny Pacquiao historian.

 

:huh

 

Resume. Domination over every style and not just one style. Beating other ATG fighters who also beat ATGs. Longevity a little. Moving up in weight and still beating the top fighters.