What determines when a fighter is "shot"?

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  1. Theo

    Theo Active Member Full Member

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    punch resistance usually goes and so does his timing.
     
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  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  3. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    you're new i understand, if you were around to see hopkins or jones or even oscar in their primes you would have an idea of what i am talking about.:good
     
    Relentless, Aug 29, 2008
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  4. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    It's pretty simple really, when they start to lose fights they wouldn't if they were anywhere close to their best.

    Do you a think a prime Roy Jones would of lost to Tarver or Johnson, and by KO of all scenarios? Or even if he was close to his prime?

    Do you think a prime or near prime Erik Morales would of lost to Raheem or Diaz?
     
    TommyV, Aug 29, 2008
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  5. BIGTIMETIMMY

    BIGTIMETIMMY ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    When everyone on ESB starts saying he is shot because we are all great boxing analysts for example Joel Casamayor was shot after Santa Cruz
     
    BIGTIMETIMMY, Aug 29, 2008
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  6. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when a persons favorite fighter loses hes shot and could never lose if he wasn't shot ... ;)
     
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  7. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    if you can really see their ribcage,then their shot.
     
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  8. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If there are bullet shells somewhere near the fighter.
     
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  9. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    If their were bullet holes with blood on them on a fighters body.
     
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  10. ApatheticLeader

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    PBF hugger?

    PS: Damgaard was even more shot than Gatti.
     
    ApatheticLeader, Aug 29, 2008
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  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    acoording to many people here it is when they lose for the first time like people saying Tyson was "shot" or not in his "prime" when he lost to Buster Douglas :patsch :rofl
     
    Rico Spadafora, Aug 29, 2008
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  12. K0NPHL1C7

    K0NPHL1C7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wait just a second, we're talking about "shot" fighters, not "out of prime" fighters.

    Oscar has been out of his prime for ages, yet can still compete at a top-tier level. Hopkins, same. Joens however, lost to Antonio Tarver, and because he can no longer compete at a "top tier" level, all the sudden he was "shot" going into his first loss.

    It just doesn't make sense. He might not have been prime, but he was the number 1 P4P fighter in the world going into his first loss to Tarver, but yet coming out of it he was "shot".

    Tarver pulled Jone's career out from underneath him.
    That's what I'm getting at. People refuse to accept their fighters first loss, if that loss hapens to take place when they're older than 30. How come other fighters, like De La Hoya and Hopkins, can still compete at a top level even at there age, and others just "lost it" as soon as they take an "L"?
     
    K0NPHL1C7, Aug 29, 2008
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  13. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When they cant do anything close to what they were able to in their prime
     
    Symphenyceo, Aug 29, 2008
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  14. bad4benny

    bad4benny Member Full Member

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    take the example of gatti against baldimor, gattis offense was ok but whenever he got hit you could see that his stamina was poor and he couldnt take a punch anymore(which used to be one of his strongest assets),against gomez though he didnt have an offense either so he was just a punching bag
     
    bad4benny, Aug 29, 2008
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  15. bad4benny

    bad4benny Member Full Member

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    and jones tarver 1 after dropping from heavyweight he looked grey in that fight and just beat tarver but he didnt look the same against- tarver number 2 again he looked grey he won the first round looked good then got caught clean and k.o then glen johnson looked ill again stood on the ropes and got beat up,I think jones knows that his skill has eroded but he aint shot yet he has had to alter his style of fighting and looks healthier now than before
     
    bad4benny, Aug 29, 2008
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