What Did Cotto Do, That Floyd Can't?

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  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    A very impressive jab.

    Floyd has one though. Not as frequent, but very good.
     
  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    But Cotto couldn't discourage Mosley from coming forward either and he still outboxed and beat him. That is why I added the first sentence of my original post.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    When Floyd throws his jab it is better then Cottos, it is faster and he throws it from better positions.
     
  4. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    too bad he doesn't throw it nearly as much as cotto.

    I actually think Cotto has a better jab than floyd, but some people won't agree.
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I watched both fights today, Shane makes for great fights! I cant tell a difference between Mosley in both fights. Mosley had that same stalking style looking to bomb away. Mosley has always been very tough, most considered Cotto the bigger puncher but when Cotto & Mosley were trading, you could tell Mosley can take Cotto's punches but Cotto was being staggered by Mosley's big chopping right.

    Now the main difference between Cotto & Margo, Cotto when hit with a big punch, actually covers up, counters, and slips, blocks the other punches coming. Margo on the other hand think he's invincible, he actually does not cover up or try slip punches, he simply absorbs them. So when you think Mosley lands a massive chopping right hand, Margo doesnt choose to block the next one, he simply chooses to absorb them and eventually it took its toll.

    Why was Margo able to hurt Cotto but not Mosley, why was Mosley able to hurt and stop Margo but Cotto couldnt? Well Shane fully commited to his punces, you can see he was really going for the KO putting his whole body into those huge shots. Cotto on the other hand "boxed" on the backfoot, no doubt reducing his power fighting off the backfoot vs coming forward like Mosley was.

    Now personally I think Mosley was able to come to Margo and Cotto wasnt able to because of 2 reasons. 1. Mosley is tougher than Cotto, he could absorb the punishment Margo was giving in order to give his own. Cotto couldnt, so he chose to box Margo and be chased around. 2. The handwraps, this would have made a big difference. If Mosley was getting hit with bricks, perhaps he would have gone on the backfoot too, and the look of the fight could be completely different.
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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  7. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well Cotto's jab was certainly more effective against Judah than PBF's. Cotto has a wicked jab.
     
  8. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I personally think it's the best WW jab.

    He's put 2 solid fighters on their asses with it.
     
  9. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Sorry you hate ****ing hearing that :lol:, but it wasn't just a style thing. A very crucial key here is Mosley was also tying up Margo like a long lost brother. Mosley would beat him to the punch and before Margo could pull the trigger since he's used to give and take, Mosley used that strategy which was brilliant. Only when Mosley was in trouble in the Forrest fight he did that. He was never in trouble in the Margarito fight for him to hold. You have to give Richardson credit for that.
     
  10. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But if anything u are saying it was a change in Mosley's strategy, which would make sense as he is fighting a different fighter. You cant say if we see the Mosley from Margo fight because Mosley will fight Floyd completely differently than he did Margo.

    Some people use that statement as if to say the Mosley of Margarito was rejuvenated version, which I think is false.
     
  11. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    The mosley that beat margarito would have obliterated mayorga.

    At least that's what I believe, anyway.

    I did not expect mosley to perform like that at all when I watched.
     
  12. Dorfmeister

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    Miguel Cotto went tit for tat with Shane, he retaliated with monster left hooks to every overhand right, didn't take a step back until he was sure he won the physical battle of attrition ( remember Shane started moving around about round five and he never did that losing either time to Winky)... Floyd may outmaneouvre/outclass Shane with excellent footwork and body coordination but he will never stay in there close to compete physically, no way!...
     
  13. dilayro

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    The Moseley that fought Cotto has nowhere chance of beating Floyd. He cant do **** against Cotto, why would it be different this time. I like Moseley to win though.
     
  14. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Great post :good
    Just add in that Mosley tied up and roughed Margo up in the clinch where as Cotto never held at all, and it woudl be perfect.
     
  15. Pimp C

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