what did Fury do better than Helenius?

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    do neutralize Wilder?
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Not get knocked out cold.
     
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    Not be a way past prime soft jawed low skilled D level senior citizen
     
  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not accept the cash bribe
     
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    Better reflexes. Better control of distance. Picks his punches better. Is faster. Doesn't have a glass jaw.
     
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    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not step in with his head in air and hands down, and let Wilder have a free shot.

    Wilder’s former sparring partners have a history of putting in acting performances. Scuba Scott didn’t do as good a job as Hellenius did though.
     
  7. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Helenius is a Nordic disgrace.
     
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    Drugs.
     
  9. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Helenius has always been a unco-ordinated and oafish in the ring with very poor balance. It was only a matter of time before his lights got turned out.

    Only movers with good feet and the ability to reset and constantly circle away from Wilder's right hand will have success.

    Watch closely enough and you'll almost all his KOs happen in the same way; opponent coming in or stand in front of him for more than 3 seconds. It's how he is programmed to operate and his bread-and-butter MO from day one.

    You have to be constantly moving against him or you're getting banged out if you let him set his feet.
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep this or constantly making Wilder back up and move so he can't set his feet to throw that howitzer of a right hand.
     
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    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    The question is wrong. It should be: could Lovejoy do better than Helenius?

    The answer is: yes.
     
  12. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He accepted it in the first fight, but changed his mind in the 12 round and decided to beat Wilder from pillar to post.
     
  13. northpaw

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    Not be completely wide open. I was thinking this as I watched the seconds go by in round 1, "why is he so wide open, he's gonna get clipped", then he got clipped. Following a puncher didn't help
     
  14. Furey

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    Get up off the floor
     
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    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    What an utterly idiotic thread!