What did Marciano do right?

He knew when to retire.

 

I don't care about your uncles.

The civil war saw the most American casualties.
And as a percentage of population the civil war was much deadlier, and so was the revolutionary war.

Relative to elsewhere it wasn't that deadly.

0.32% of Americans died in WW2.

Compare that to 13.7% for the Soviets.
8+% for Germany.

Australia had more casualties as a percentage of their population than the USA.

America came out (relatively) unscathed.


When it comes to competition, Marciano was lucky with WW2 because it affected Europe and the Soviet block much more than it affected the USA.


I stand by my statement that it wasn't that deadly a war relative to elsewhere.

 

I just saw Hacksaw Ridge
Okinawa looked ****ing insane.
I appreciate your families sacrifices.

 

Tell that to the Americans that fought in it you idiot!

 

I can tell them the facts, give me their number.

 

I'm leaning towards Holyfield in his first reign given he wasn't all that great. People talk about Rocky beating up old men and what have you...

decisions Foreman age 42 in competitive fight
is troubled by but stops unrated Cooper-second tier replacement opponent.
decisions Holmes age 41 in competitive fight
loses title to #1 contender Bowe

 

Most of those diseases/accidents are a direct results of the war.

2. The fact still stands that as a percentage of the population the civil war was many times deadlier.

All I'm saying is that compared to elsewhere the USA didn't see much casualties.

More Americans died in 1943 from heart disease, than Americans died from the results of WW2.(1 year vs a whole war)
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/lead1900_98.pdf[/url]


And yes, it was an asset he was born in 1923.
The USA came out relatively unscathed while Europe had much more casualties (both relative and absolute), Rocky therefore had less potential competition from European heavyweights who were more likely to have been a casualty of the war.


You're getting all emotional about **** I've never claimed.
Did I argue than ww2 wasn't bad? I only claimed that the USA came out relatively unscathed and supported it with facts.
And relative to the population, the civil war and revolutionary war caused much more American casualties.

 

Because you can't argue against facts.

 

His training and getting Charlie Goldman for his trainer. I don't think Rocky would've made it as far as he did without Goldman.

 

This is the right question to ask.

No fighter has ever been successful at world level, for no reason.

No era has ever been so weak, nor its champion so strong, that the champion did not go life and death.

There has never been an era dominated by a Sam Peter, who was just lucky to be big for example.

Marciano’s success has to be explained!

 

True. Possibly he greatest training job ever done at the championship level.