Marciano had infinite stamina, great heart and ko power in both hands. his chin is overrated ,frazier had better chin. marciano was not hard to outbox and he was not hard to hit
Childish Mongoose, but predictable. Yeah Holyfield who was ranked in the top ten for 15 years 7 of which he was number one,wasn't much at all.How long was Marciano's entire career, 8 years,only 6 of which he was ranked or champ in
See here is another great insight by the predictable mr predictable himself, always pointing anything negative. Different era's different times doesnt mean much to him. Holyfield had the benefit of a great amateur career, Marciano didnt, each had a great trainer, Goldman-Benton, each fought the best of their era. Oh, mc will point out Marciano, fought mostly old guys past their prime, those old guys were the best at the time and proved it by fighting. Holyfield was how old? When he fought for a piece of the title, how old was Foreman when he ko'd, Hopkins they were all fighting well into their 40's. Cos you paint everybody with the same brush, he doesnt seem to know some fighters age differently. Marciano knew when to get out Holyfield apparently didnt.
Yet again you miss the point entirely, this is Mongoose's statement. "I'm leaning towards Holyfield in his first reign given he wasn't all that great" He is specifically saying Holyfield was overated ' I questioned that because I think it's it total rubbish Holyfield was a great fighter and makes my top ten at heavyweight .He was top ten rated for 15 years for f*ck's sake! Who else was? I never mentioned Marciano's opposition on this thread I merely said,[actually I only implied it,] that he was fortunate to be born when he was . And I completely stand by that statement because imo ,he would not have been heavyweight champion from 1960 onwards. That in no way detracts from his achievements in his own era, but his self- appointed keeper of the flame, ie YOU, took the opportunity to take another swipe at me. You really need to read posts before you knee jerk into reflex action because you are seriously mugging yourself here. You're trying to put words into my mouth ,well no need, I find I can speak quite well for myself ,in fact I think I can talk a damn sight better than you!
The rock had limitless stamina hit very hard with very short punchs was ruthless and pityless in the ring and absolutely would not stop until he had defeated his opponent .focus it is called nowadays madness is probably closer to the mark.
mcvey, Yet again you miss the point entirely, this is Mongoose's statement. "I'm leaning towards Holyfield in his first reign given he wasn't all that great" He is specifically saying Holyfield was overated ' So, that is his opinion and you stated your opinion and I stated mine I questioned that because I think it's it total rubbish Holyfield was a great fighter and makes my top ten at heavyweight .He was top ten rated for 15 years for f*ck's sake! Who else was? I dont believe I questioned Holyfields ranking at all. I never mentioned Marciano's opposition on this thread I merely said,[actually I only implied it,] that he was fortunate to be born when he was . He was born when he was born so was everybody else, Dempsey, Louis and whoever else. Each dominated their era's why must you always find fault? That is my problem with your posts sorry that youi can dish it out but you cant take it. And I completely stand by that statement because imo ,he would not have been heavyweight champion from 1960 onwards. You see who cares what you think, Marciano was an icon, does that grind your nuts? He fought the guys that were around his time, and thaats all you can ask of somebody. Since you are a revisionist write your own articles and make your own quotes, I am sure they will be very popular That in no way detracts from his achievements in his own era, but his self- appointed keeper of the flame, ie YOU, took the opportunity to take another swipe at me. Now who is jumping to delusions? You really need to read posts before you knee jerk into reflex action because you are seriously mugging yourself here. You're trying to put words into my mouth ,well no need, I find I can speak quite well for myself ,in fact I think I can talk a damn sight better than you! Arent you the brilliant observer of articles and quotes who still cant see, Louis' punch, that said Louis fought basically one handed? Yes, you imply a lot of things that that are incorrect, like the Louis photo, the flabby midsection, and many more.