What did Roberto Duran do to be considered "great" in your HUMBLE opinion

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  1. Godhead

    Godhead Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Many of you and other boxing forum members, like to call people great or not great, the best of all time this that blah blah blah, but haven't the ability to analyze a fighters skill set.

    So simply put what was so "great" about Roberto Duran besides his victory of a green 22 year old Leonard?
     
  2. JasonHensley

    JasonHensley Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Any man who stops a fight because he has to take a **** is an ATG.

    -ps- Do some ****ing research or shut the **** up.
     
  3. anj

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    His reign up until the end of the lightweight days was enough. He beat Ernesto Marcel, Ken Buchanan, Esteban De Jesusx2.

    But it was his Montreal win against Leonard, when he was no longer in prime condition, which threw him into serious greatness...picking up a win against HOF Carlos Palomino along the way of course.

    What really cemented his serious greatness was his way past prime wins against the likes of Moore, Barkley and holding his own against Hagler.
     
  4. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wasn't green, he was in his prime. He was a great fighter who was an amazing lightweight and beat Leonard at his best weight. He had numerous losses after that which damaged his legacy, overall I rate him at least top 30.

    He's overrated on ESB who rate him at #10 ATG and better than Leonard, Hagler, and Hearns which is complete BS. Despite beating Leonard in their first fight he got beat twice after and quit in one of their fights, got knocked out by Hearns, beat by Hagler, beat by Benitez and numerous others.

    Great fighter ATG, but overrated on ESB.
     
  5. santiagoRedux

    santiagoRedux Your Parents Failed Full Member

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    How about the ten years prior to that fight? Ring a bell? Or how about fighting Hagler to a practical standstill in the 15th professional year of Duran's career? Or how about capturing the the Middleweight title after over 20 years as a professional fighter versus The Blade?

    I assume you're just having a laugh, right?
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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  7. Revolver

    Revolver Active Member Full Member

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    What a stupid ****in' question. Do some research before embarrassing yourself on the forum.
     
  8. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    He was a legend before he ever fought Leonard. Leonard was just icing on a great cake. He was 71-1 when he fought Ray. His reign as lightweight champion is one for the books. He never lost one single fight at lightweight. The one guy who did beat him, Esteban De Jesus, he beat back twice, including a 12 round KO win for the World Lightweight title. He had 12 defenses of his lightweight crown. He was the only man to last 15 rounds with Hagler in Hagler's entire middleweight championship reign. That was a close fight too, by the way. I could go on and on, but this thread doesn't deserve it. Look him up.
     
  9. McGrain

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    Leonard wasn't green and that is likely the greatest win in boxing history.

    Duran was a twelve defence veteran of the linear lightweight title, and he took the title from the brilliant Buchanan.

    He looks utterly brilliant on film.

    Way past prime he took a middleweight strap from an aggressive, punching, big middleweight guaranteeing him serious points for longevity.

    A cool beard.
     
  10. Godhead

    Godhead Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok so based on your "logic" he was a better fighter fighting nobodys @ 135 then when he fought Davey Moore? He was "past his prime and washed up" when he fought Davey Moore at 154 and the 135 pound version of him would beat the version of him that fought Marvin Hangler @ middleweight? :-(

    You guys "past prime" theorys are funny, but I seriously do give you credit for at least attempting to make sense though and being serious instead of saying something idiotic like saying "troll thread".
     
  11. Abdullah

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    You are easliy one of E.S.B.'s worst posters. I picture that avatar you had of Hasim Rahman and that not-so-bright look he had on his face every time I read one of your stupid posts. If you don't think Roberto Duran is top ten pound for pound, you are ******ed. He lost to Hearns, Hagler and Leonard huh? You do realize that they were all naturally bigger than Roberto, right? Roberto Duran turned pro at 119 pounds. His prime weight was 135, where he never lost a fight! Neither Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns or Marvin Hagler can say that they never lost a fight at their best weights. Him beating Leonard was amazing! Both Leonard and Duran belong in the top ten pound for pound of all time. You should study the history of boxing for about 10 years before you ever post again.
     
  12. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    :deal
     
  13. Godhead

    Godhead Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let me explain something to you, and many other boxing watchers need to learn. First off you need to use the same logic for every fighter. What the hell did Duran do so great pre-Leonard besides beating guys who aren't even good, althought it wasn't his fault because he can't INVENT worthy opponents, but it's not like he was beating world beaters before Leonard.

    The Leonard who fought Duran was green and wasn't worthy.
     
  14. Godhead

    Godhead Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This was Duran's greatest achievement, going the distance with a super middleweight even though he started at 135, he did get a gift decision, but I give him credit for going the distance. I can respect this video post.