What did Roberto Duran do to be considered "great" in your HUMBLE opinion

He was an ATG before the Leonard win. I can't believe I'm entertaining this thread.

 

:roll: Sad that a boxing fan should even ask this question

 

71 -1 and had ruled the lightweights for years.
moved up two weight classes and beat the absolutely outstanding sugar ray leonard
was an all time great at lightweight before he moved up to beat leonard.
won the light middle title in an upset win over davey moore
won the middleweight title aged 100 upsetting iran barkley
who was the last lightweight to win the middleweight title?
world titles at 4 weights
narrow 15 round decision loss against the monster hagler
dominated his own division for years
longevity
fought all challengers
continually gave away size and fought other greats in their primes at their best weights
outstanding skills
exciting style
ko power at lightweight
fighting heart
charisma
etc etc
id rate him in the top 10 greatest fighters

 

It's hard to believe you can believe this bull**** you are typing. ****ing idiot.

 

If he's over rated on ESB he's also over rated by the Internation Boxing Research Organization, (IBRO). They rank him 7th on the all time great list. P4P and second in the lightweight division.

 

12 consecutive defenses of the undisputed Lightweight crown. He then vacated that belt, never losing his title in the ring (never actually suffering a loss at 135lbs or below in his entire career). He then stepped up to Welterweight and outclassed HOF former champion Carlos Palomino. He then clearly outpointed a PRIME Sugar Ray Leonard - maybe the 2nd best Welterweight ever - becoming the only man to ever beat Leonard until a misguided comeback years later. He won the Jr. Middleweight title by battering the bigger, younger, and heavily favored Davey Moore. 17 years after he captured the Lightweight crown, he picked up a Middleweight title by defeating Iran Barkley, who was fresh off a knockout victory over Thomas Hearns. His prime record stood at 72-1, with that lone loss avenged twice, and in brutal fashion. He has victories over Ray Leonard, Esteban DeJesus 2x, Ken Buchanan, Ernesto Marcel, Carlos Palomino, Iran Barkley, Hiroshi Kobayashi, Guts Ishimatsu, Davey Moore, Vilamor Fernandez, Ray Lampkin, Edwin Viruet 2x, Emilliano Villa, Pipino Cuevas, Saoul Mamby, etc. He competed in 5 different decades, and in his prime he looks to be as impressive a boxer as we have footage of.

So yeah, mostly all of that.

 

good shot

 

I think Duran typically gets a hard time for his losses within the fab 4, but that's a little odd to me. Duran started his pro-career at 119 lbs, yet is critized for losing to Hearns who was 4 inches taller (giving up 12 inches in reach) and started at 147 and competed up to 190lbs, Hagler who was a solid 160 with 2.5 inch height + 9 inch reach advantage, and Leonard who started at 140 with 3 inch height + 8 inch reach advantage. Even in the Ams they all fought at heigher weight than Duran did at an equivalent age. He clearly wasn't naturally anywhere near them in size, yet beat one of them and took another right to the wire.

Imagine if Floyd was severely critized for losing to Canelo, that would be pretty similar to the unfair criticism Duran gets for losing to Hagler. In fact, he should be given massive credit for making it that competitive, not to mention beating SRL.

 

This gem...followed by this gem.

:rofl

 

Well, he had a ****in' awesome beard.

 

Knocked out a horse at a farm = ATG

 

Lets start with the win over prime young SRL and go from there.