What did Wilder really prove?

I'd punch his teeth out through his arsehole.

 

He proved he had a very carefully crafted coddled and handpicked career. He was fighting a bunch of handpicked hometown fights and still struggled with many of them. He wasn’t competitive at all with Fury and lost both fights to any sane observer.

 

Truthfully I don't know where Wilder sits based on his opponents to date.

Though over egged, his one punch knockout power probably makes him a top ten fighter.

But until he fights a Parker, a Ruiz, a Whyte or Povetkin, it's kind of impossible to gauge his true level.

He could win all those fights, but I suspect he loses most if not all of them now Fury has shown the World that the Emporer has no clothes and what's required to beat him.

It's not exactly complex ring craft either. You push him back and look to get him out of there early. He can't fight on the back foot, he can't defend on the inside, he has poor punch resistance and a lamentable gas tank. Probably even Del Boy would fancy it now, though I suspect Wilder might just manage to pick him off.

It may be that he really is number 3 or 4 in the World, it may be he's really just top 20.

 

We should remember this: Wilder did spar and fight two very skilled active guys in Haye and Fury, both of who have excellent defence, and Wilder still touched them both up. Haye spoke about being caught and having pain down his neck or whatever for days. Fury got caught in both fights. This tells me that Wilder can catch more or less any HW if they don't take him out first. He has very fast hands and very long reach, so that compensates for a lot of things. Wilder can beat fighters who are more skilled than he is and guys with a punch if he gets to them first.

 

No offense, but this is like someone saying (after Ali-Foreman) ... "Everyone can beat George now. Just let George pound the hell out of you until he gets tired. The emporer has no clothes."

Tyson Fury is the best heavyweight in the world at the moment. He is also 6'9", weighed 270 pounds, and has a longer reach.

Nobody you mentioned fits that bill other than Fury.

But I also encourage all the heavyweights to charge in at Deontay Wilder from now on and try to ko him early. Especially the shorter guys. Get into a shootout with Wilder. Sounds like a great plan. Why didn't anyone think of this before? (LOL)

 

Yes, in theory prime Wilder could defeat a B level fighter. However, he never fought anybody good during his prime (except for Fury, who beat him easily) and he is getting old now so we'll never know.

 

He proved that it takes a fighter of furys caliber to beat him. The guy walks around at 210 and started boxing as an adult. What he was able to accomplish deserves some respect around here

 

People were similarly derisive when Fury said he was gonna do it....

All I said was there's now a very clear road map for how to beat Wilder and it's one several heavyweights would feel confident of executing.

Whether they would or not is up for debate and you don't seem to acknowledge that stated uncertainty from my post.

All I've got is a hunch and a lot of it is based on that road map, but a lot is also down to the exploding of a myth, the destruction of an aura - which counts for a lot in any top end, competitive sport. Many more boxers now actually believe they can beat Wilder and that's a significant change.

All that said, if you seriously think only Fury beats Wilder then I've no idea what you think you saw in February.

You laugh at the thought of people trying to beat Wilder early when history tells us that's exactly what opponents should do. After all, if Fury can't avoid him for 12 rounds who the hell could?

And Fury's win wasn't primarily based on being taller or having a longer reach, it was based on getting inside Wilder's range, taking away his long levers and beating him up on the inside.

As I say, the road map is clear, many could execute, many will believe they can execute it. Only when Wilder fights someone between bum and ATG will we be able to gauge his true level.

 

Rolls eyes.

Yes. "The road map is clear." Knock out Deontay Wilder before he can knock you out. Got it.

Good luck with that road map ... everyone between bum and ATG. (LOL)

 

I don't know whether you're being deliberately obtuse or are just thick as mince, your potted summary of my post could indicate either.

In any case I have no cause to dwell on it. Only a basic level of reading and comprehension is required to note there's more to the road map than knocking Wilder out first. It's good that you managed to log in though.

 

Fury has power but he rarely landed a sharp, devastating shot on Wilder in that fight. He was touching up Wilder with a lot of partially-smothered punches. That does not tell me Wilder is durable; he was getting rocked by just about everything Fury landed.

 

Wilder has proved that he has a lethal right hand, a serious ego and a team of cherry picking spin doctors.

They ducked Joshua then set a bunch of YouTube racists to help deny the duck and use hate and racism to try spin it so that Eddie Hearn was a white supremacist and Joshua a slave and a ducker.

 

He proved he has a peanut brain and cannot do math.

He turned down $120,000,000 from DAZN because there were too many zeroes in that number.

 

He proved that **** for brains will buy anything Al Gaymon has to sell them