What do jcc jr., calzaghe, and edwin valero have in common?

yeah, seriously... why the hell does joe get so much flak for beating an old bhop whereas pavlik is not being criticized for fighting 'nard?

 

He has more boxing skill than Pavlik will ever have in his life....Pavlik is merely a puncher with a high work rate

If Pavlik came to Wales it would be something Kelly possibly wouldnt handle even at Joe's age

 

So why is Pavlik fighting Hopkins in a non title fight at a catchweight for 10 rounds ????

 

A guy with a grade-A china chin is a guy who would be put to sleep by light punchers, by grazing punches. Taylor was in the ring with a big puncher, and more than that, a guy who can do huge damage in terms of accumilation.

The accumilation leading to the stoppage in the first Taylor-Pavlik fight was started by a big right hand right on the temple, which obviously would have screwed with Taylor's equilibrium and stunned him. Pavlik then preceeded to pile on the pressure while Taylor looked stunned and exhausted.

He was hardly put to sleep. Pavlik caught him with big combinations from awkward angles, not even on the chin but most of them right on the temple. The fight was actually stopped with Taylor still on his fight, he then collapsed to his knees a few seconds after in exhaustion. He wasn't 'put to sleep' because he was still conscious.

 

Have the seen the Lacy fight.

Joe doesn't have to pin guys against the ropes and unleash quick combinations, he didn't manage to do that with Hopkins.

As I keep saying and as you seem to keep missing, he is extremely adaptible, and can adapt to any style.

Calzaghe would use his superior footwork, timing, understanding of range, rhythm and movement to step inside and fire combinations on Pavlik or single quick pot-shots or counters and step in and out of range, out of rhythm and circling away from Pavlik's power.

Calzaghe-Pavlik would look like Calzaghe-Lacy all over again (although not quite as bad).

 

I didn't say you were a ***. I said it sounded like a term used by a ***.

And while we're at it though, yes, you are a ***.

Also, your posts make absolutely no sense. I suggest if you want to continue this debate you type in English.

Not that I do suggest you continue.

In fact, I would suggest you pack up now and leave ESB now because you are getting thoroughly owned.

 

I'd like you to provide an analytical view please.

How exactly would Pavlik KO Joe?

 

Not gonna happen.........your estimation of Pavlik is far too high

 

He didn't 'pin' Hopkins against the ropes. He merely controlled the center of the ring and the tempo like a world-class fighter can do and cut off Hopkins options so that he couldn't move around, therefore he was always in range to get caught with combinations and outworked.

Which is exactly what he would do with Pavlik.

EDIT: While we're at it, how does Pavlik fair against Abraham?

And what's your prediction on Pavlik-Hopkins.