What do jcc jr., calzaghe, and edwin valero have in common?

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  1. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    I've already said Joe's technique is awful and his punches are now weak because of his brittle hands and therefore lack of technique.

    Don't try and make out that I nuthug Calzaghe like you clearly do with Pavlik.

    Now, do you have anything legitimate to say on exactly how and why Pavlik KO's Joe? And a prediction on Pavlik-Hopkins and a Pavlik-Abraham fight?

    If you think that Calzaghe lacks natural strength you are truly mistaken. Did you see the Eubank fight?

    When he punches with correct technique and puts his body weight behind it, he does have power. Unfortunately he cannot do this anymore because of his brittle hands.
     
  2. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    i assume you're basing your opinions of Calzaghe on the Manfredo and Hopkins fights??

    both of which were when he was 35+

    so that means we dont know how good Pavlik is for another 10 years!!!
     
  3. mad_takamura

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    Kelly is 1-dimensional: do i need to explain further? :huh
    Kelly is a superb puncher. If grandpa b-hop made your boy joe sit with his lady butt, can you imagine what damage would kelly inflict on joe's chin?
    All kelly has to do is do the 1-2. Or keep doing the jab and rely on his timing to drop the bomb. That's what he did repetetively on jt. Jt solved that on the early going, but kelly's machine like persistance made him win with a ko..
    I would give more props on kelly coz he is all natural. He doe'snt need a boxer's manual to win, he only needs to rely on his heart, ability to recover, and most especially his raw power to ko opponents.
    I know i am making it hard for you guys. knowing that you are obviously joe nut huggers, but as far as i am concerned, the bottomline here is joe fighting at his homeland all those years would'nt have me impressed. Neither am i impressed in him fighting roy. Roy is done, i pity him being cherry picked.:-(
     
  4. mad_takamura

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    Excuse me?....
    Oh, kelly vs b-hop: kelly tko b-hop. Kelly-abraham: kelly tko abraham..
     
  5. mrplow182

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    You can't beat Calzaghe with just a jab followed by a straight right, how is a 1-2 gonna destroy Calzaghe???

    Kessler tried that, didnt work, tried the uppercuts which buzzed Joe, but Kessler is faster than Pavlik....after that Calzaghe danced around the ring jabbing and coming in occasionally to score and getting out again......
     
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    abraham has a better chin than pavlik and equal KO power so if anything its a 50-50 fight at the very least
     
  7. mad_takamura

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    You don't nuthug joe? You're from london: do you expect me to believe that nonsense? :huh
     
  8. TommyV

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    You think a supreme defensive fighter like Bernard Hopkins, along with his iron jaw, is going to get stopped by a predictable 160 like Pavlik? :lol:

    You think Abraham, with his granite chin and tight defensive guard, is going to get stopped aswell? :lol:

    Hopkins UD Pavlik. The best Pavlik hope for is a decision by outworking him, because Hopkins is going to make him look silly.

    Abraham KO Pavlik. More powerful, better defense, better chin, better understanding of range.
     
  9. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Like i said: if grandpa b-hop made your girl..i mean boy sit around: WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD PAV DO TO THAT CHIN? Pav imo has more power than b-hop, and b-hop is all wahed up: he's done. He does'nt have "pop" anymore. Why do you keep underestimating kelly's power huh? :huh
     
  10. ThePlugInBabies

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    :rofl :lol:
     
  11. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    We'll see when that fight happens. Wanna bet on that???
     
  12. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Another jt hater who is blind to see the boxing skills this guy has...
     
  13. mrplow182

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    A flash knockdown in round 1 from a counter punching fox like Hopkins doesn't mean Pavlik will be able to land any bombs on Calzaghe in the slightest

    Pavlik has been down almost if not the same amount of times already as Calzaghe has in over 10 years of professional boxing

    Hopkins weighed around 190 by the time of the Calzaghe fight so his punches were bound to be felt by Calzaghe...
     
  14. bladerunner

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    ill give him credit when he deserves it,he has been a pro for six years and the only good fighter he fought is a shot Larios.
     
  15. ThePlugInBabies

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    hopkins ducked calzaghe in 2002.

    truth. :good