What do you expect to see in Fury vs Usyk 2?

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  1. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fury is shot but he will sneak a decision
     
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  2. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Pretty much how I see it
     
  3. Special one

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    I expect Fury to fight rougher and tbh dirtier, using rough house tactics and swarming Usyk closing the distance more. Feel tyson will be looking to beat Usyk in establishing the jab, or use his feinting tactics to set up throwing 2/3 punch combos before lots of leaning on Usyk and roughing him up on the inside. Usyk has the best footwork in boxing and great levels of fitness so I feel Fury will not look to outbox Usyk for 12 rounds this time and at some point in the fight will go for the above tactics. Will it be enough, I'm not sure but I think Fury has a lot better performance in the tank than the first fight.
     
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  4. oldcanvasback

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    That's a very real possibility. Fury had Usyk hurt a couple of times with rights to the body and shook his brain with uppercuts.
    Fury looked pretty fit (for him) in their first fight but was in woeful condition before that
    If Fury's maintained a boxing lifestyle since their fight that alone would improve the odds for him.
    I'm not sure Usyk can get fitter or better prepared but I think Fury can.
     
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  5. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    Fury had success with his uppercuts and genuinely hurt Usyk to the body a couple of times.
    A fitter Fury may be able to do it more often this time around.
    also think Fury needs to work on his guard b/c Usyk doesn't stop.
     
  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Broadly this...

    I think Fury will have his best rounds early in the fight again - but Usyk will turn it around quicker than last time, too.

    I think Usyk learned more about how to deal with Fury than Fury learned about Usyk... And I think that'll make itself obvious.

    Fury can try coming heavier and trying to hold and lean more, but Usyk was able to counter him trying that and that's only going to be easier (and more consistent) if Fury comes in heavier and slower... Plus Fury can't afford less of a gas tank than last time - they've both aged since last time, but in relative terms Fury still needs to be in the best condition he possibly can be.
     
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  7. BubblesUK

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    The problem for Fury is that Usyk adjusts even better, has a generational boxing brain well beyond Fury's.

    Will more sparring improve Fury's resistance to body punches, which ground him down a good bit in the first fight?

    Will Fury be better prepared moreso than Usyk will be better prepared?

    Will Fury be fitter and stronger than last time, or do you think he'll have aged less since the last fight meaning he's fitter and/or stronger than Usyk this time?
     
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  8. BubblesUK

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    So Fury is shot, but Usyk is shotter... The fight is a shitter, and it means next to nothing?

    TBF, it'd sum up the division over the past 5-10 years pretty well...
     
  9. Arch Stanton

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  10. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hope to see Fury cut out the clowning. That would be an easy change that would likely win some rounds, if he focussed on his output instead of clowning to a crowd. Usyk demonstrated in fight 1 that he wasn't phased by it and was happy to focus on his own work to tally some early rounds when Fury was messing around and not really landing clean.

    That one change could make for a very interesting fight. I expect both men are taking this seriously. But both are getting older, and I think it goes 12 rounds again. With Usyk edging it on the cards through his typical consistency and being able to go through the gears. Fury will have his moments, but he has abused his body too much over the years, and I expect it will catch up with him even more with each fight.

    Both men dialed in. But Usyk on points.
     
  11. Philosopher

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    I did suggest Usyk may similarly improve. Fury did not have a great camp last time, I think that is a fact. He didn't get the sparring he'd usually get. It might make a difference, it might not....
     
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  12. Finkel

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    The thing with Fury is he is hard to predict. But what isn't is that face planting on the tiles drunk out of his skull is not good preparation for an aging pro athletes at the highest level. Even if he was just blowing off steam.

    Fury from what is known turned to clean living (and maybe even some juice) after he made his comeback up until Wilder 2. Then he was in a sorry state for Wilder 3. Looked good for Whyte and Chisora. Was in another sorry state for Ngannou.

    I'm sure Hatton was in his ear telling him about the dangers of not living the life between fights. But Fury is Fury, it's a part of him now. But he was near 8 years younger when he whipped himself back into shape with Ben Davison. I'll be very surprised if Fury can significantly turn back the clock
     
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  13. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well when you put it like that. Haha
    Maybe the best we can say is they are equally on the downward trajectory. The fight is still significant as it's for the world title (and a rematch of undisputed). But it might be viewed more like Lewis v Tyson with time.
     
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  14. MrPook

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    What nobody talks about it that Fury got tagged hard early in the fight already. I believe it was round 2 and he was hurt. But still fresh so he was able to brush it off at that stage of the fight.

    I think this time Fury will showboat less and go straight to work from the opening bell. He will be strong the first 6 rounds but if he can’t force a stoppage early or at least knock Usyk down a couple of times Usyk will turn tide once again and win the fight. Maybe even by KO. There comes a time Fury won’t be able to get up from a knockdown.
     
  15. ashishwarrior

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    Shorts will be high as per from the guy who hides his belly