What do you guys think of Slim Fast?

i've tried it, it does give u a full feeling, but u feel bloated and it does have sugar. it didn't do much for me. i guess it also depends on your metabolism and low or high intensity workout that u do. i've gone from 190 to about 156 but just by eating half of what i usually ate, and that's because i have a low metabolism. my sys/diastolic is like 120-115 over 60. if i bought a burger, i'd eat half and save the other half for leftovers the next day for lunch, not for dinner as i'd only eat apples, bananas, and nuts like pecans or pistachios. i used to eat a large box of pepperoni pizza by myself, now i'll just eat 2 slices and i'll just eat the crust and the topping. what i will eat a full meal is breakfast as it's the most important and fuel for the day. works for me.

 

No.

 

I'm 5'10", I've gone from 290lbs in December 2006, to like 180lbs now. I was a fat ******* who only got up early if there was a Dallas rerun. Now I'm quite nimble and energetic, etc... I'm now ready to muscle up to 210, 220, over the next couple years. Wanna be like Iron Mike, but anyway... I did it in stops and starts, in bits really, but if you wanna know my basic philosophy... here it is...
Well, food is protein, carbs and fats. So, pick your protein, carbs and fats.
Protein, ok, tuna, eggs, chicken, etc..
Fats, take an essential fatty acid supplement, flaxseed oil, whatever. like 3-5g a day, or something. You need to eat fat to lose fat. You need fatty acids in your diet to metabolise body fat. Going back to eggs, for example, the egg yolk is a great source of good fat, you can eat 3-5 boiled eggs a day, it's not gonna kill you, man, phospholipids rock, what kills you is if you take those eggs and fry it, or nuke them in the microwave (as some people do), coz it turns the good fats bad, etc.
OK, all that is just preliminary sh-t, now... picking your CARBS... you only put on fat when your blood sugar levels go on a bender. If you eat something sugary, (like SlimFast, lol), your get an energy rush for like 5min as your blood sugar levels skyrocket, your body then starts to secrete insulin to store that blood sugar as fat, it goes overboard and you wind up with low blood sugar like 20min later, which prompts you to eat something sugary once more. And it's a vicious cycle, and that's how you wind up like a fat *******.
So, instead of fast-releasing CARBS (sugary stuff), you need to fuel up on slow-releasing carbs. My personal favourites are oats (yip, porridge oats), and brown basmati rice. They're extreme in this regard, really slow-releasing. With a bowl of oats for breakfast, sure in the beginning I also threw in some milk, butter, sugar, honey, whatever... gradually however I reduced it, to the point where I was at times eating it completely plain. Just cooked with water, and down the hatch. To be honest, cook it with a bit of milk, throw in a sliced banana, you'll enjoy it more and overall it'll have the same effect. If cash ain't an issue (some of us are living on the breadline here, lol, I know I am!), throw in strawberries or whatever. Eat it three times a day if you need to. That's what I do. Oats in high quantities can be rather acidic, if you find this is the case, try a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water once or twice a day to alkalinise things.
Brown basmatic rice, I just mix in a bit of green pesto sauce. Done. You could for that matter use any pasta sauce and pretend that it's a risotto, just watch the sugar content.
You mention vanilla yoghurt, plain plain yoghurt is another winner. No flavourings, no added sugar, nothing. A small bowl of that, it's got carbs, protein, etc... in the right ratio, great snack, good snack before and/or after exercise, throw in a bit of sliced fruit if you can't stomach it on its own, but really it only takes a week or two to kill a sugar addiction if you go full out. I used to eat fully sugared up highly flavoured yoghurt, now I'm only eating completely plain yoghurt and thoroughly enjoying it.
Eat smaller meals, but more often (i see like a six-hour-gap in your food diary, that's something you wanna avoid), do high intensity interval training (or tabata intervals or whatever) to jack up your metabolism, eat lots of fruit, lots of raw/lightly steamed veg, with a preference from fibrous veg like broccoli and leafy veg and stuff, snack on raw carrots, nuts and seeds, and drink plenty water. Uh huh.
If I could recommend a book, it would be Patrick Holford's "The Holford Low GL Diet". You've only got 5 pounds to lose so, anyway, shouldn't be long.

EDIT: Oh yeah, you can get vegetable sources of protein too, like lentils and quinoa... and of course take a multivitamin and multimineral, lol. Just to round things off.

 

lol
slim fast is for women

 

Why would cooking eggs in a pan be any different than boiling them?

 

It adds more fat, which is not really a bad thing. The media has brainwashed us into believing that fat it evil. This is not the case. Fat is your friend. The key is to balance the TYPES of fat you eat.

 

Are you talking about butter?:huh


This dude said that cooking in a pan or microwave changes the fat in the yolk into a different form versus boiling it.

Ive never heard that before and dont believe it, but I want to see what he means by that.

 

I was talking about butter/oil. That is what this article was refering to when he said "changes into bad fats"

Heating fat to a high degree will breakdown and change it's fatty acid profile. So yes, the yolk could theoretically change.

You'd have to have a hell of an heat source though. Saturated fats are VERY stable. It would burn before it would change into "bad" fat.

 

Agreeing with the above, let me continue.

http://www.criticalbench.com/athlete-nutrition-tips.htm

Look under Rule 10, choose boiled eggs instead of fried eggs, etc...
I mean, it's not like the above site is the ultimate authority on fitness and nutrition , just saying that there's a general opinion in athletic circles that boiled eggs are preferable. Whenever an athlete does an overnight transformation, people generally ask "Jeez, what's he been doing?", the answer is typically "Creatine and a dozen boiled eggs for breakfast". 9 times out of 10, they say 'boiled'.

Frying is pretty high temperature, produces free radicals and carcinogenic substances like acrylamide, and would destroy the fat (ie, turn it bad) a great deal more than boiling. When you have a high intake of toxins/anti-nutrients/bad fats etc..., if your body is unable to dispose of them immediately (either metabolising them or excreting them), it stores them in your body fat, if they don't stick to your arteries or become lodged in your brain first. Kinda like a quarantine. When you try and shift the fat, your body says "no ways, you crazy", which is often why a detox regimen of steamrooms and saltbaths is required to get rid of the last couple pounds.

I'm quite keen on keeping the choline and lecithin etc.. nice and intact. Granted, if you cook the sh-t outta something, it doesn't matter how you do it. If you're gonna have 3-5 eggs a week, go ahead and fry the *******s. But if you're having 3-5 a day, boil 'em.

And as for microwaving, it just destroys good fats like it's nobody's business. For example, if you wanted to add a can of tuna to your pasta, heat the pasta up first, and THEN add the tuna, and serve, instead of nuking your precious omega's. It's fine, though, for cooking oats and stuff, since oats aren't exactly a critical source of good fats etc..

Microwaving also destroys the vast majority of enzymes that are already present in the food you eat, and which are intended to help you digest it, so I'd prefer steaming veg in a conventional steamer instead of in the microwave, but a microwave IS much quicker and often less hassle, vitamin retention is very good, so you gotta weigh up the goods with the bads.