what do you old timers think about the GGG hype?

Drew101 · Feb 4, 2015

Archie_Moore said: ↑

I think I qualify... Even though I don't post much anymore, I've been posting on this site since the nineties...

I Like GGG a lot... Very good technical skills and awesome power. Rarely do you get a combo like that.
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Haven't seen you on here all that much since the crash of '07. Hope all is well. :good

Same opinion. GGG's catch-and-shoot is great, and he's shown an ability to roll shots very well. For an offensive fighter, his D is extremely underrated. Plus he places his punches together well, and hits freaking hard.

I hope he can claim the lineal title. If he does, he'll have earned recognition as one of the better middleweights of this generation.

Bobthepen · Feb 5, 2015

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I think Ward will have a harder time getting in the clinch in the first place, GGG has the balance and poise to take a step back when Ward ducks low and just pop quick shots on his head, or steer him away. He also isnt adverse to creating separation with his forearm, and is also adept and "tucking in" and keeping his arms inside the clinch attempt, giving him the leverage.

Also factor that Greco-Roman wrestling is a staple of Soviet style athletic programs (and Khazakstan is also famous for wrestling, its culturally huge as combat sport there) - Golovkin is a well schooled wrestler. He isnt going to be discomfited or off balance the first time someone grapples an arm and tries to bully him in a clinch.

Golovkin also puts a lot of leg->torso rotational torque on his shots and can deliver power at point blank range. Unlike say Froch, who has devastating power on even average punches at full extension but has almost nothing at point blank.

I think people have made a huge miscalculation in thinking Ward has the inside advantage.

Conversely, I do think Ward can use his length, handspeed and upper-body movement to fight effectively from the outside. Though I think most of his potshots would get picked by arm or shoulder and Golovkin can jab while moving effectively.

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Very good assessment, and one which I agree with. Ward does use his strength and balance as his best weapon. Ducks/lunges inside then stand up, pushing the other fighter back if you're stronger. As they topple back slightly his hands drop and Ward throws a few quick shots. This habit of lunging under the guard and standing up is why he head butts so often. It's very effective, if you're stronger than the other guy (Bika, perhaps the strongest 168lb fighter, couldn't be pushed around like this, hence the reason why Ward had a far harder fight than a man of his supposed talent should have).
How strong will Golovkin be at 168? That's probably the most significant question that surrounds this fight.
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what do you old timers think about the GGG hype?

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