What do you think about "Rope a Dope"?

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  1. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Ali has admitted doing the rope a dope against Foreman damaged him. He took a lot of punishment doing it. He said he was never the same after that.
     
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  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ropes are pretty dope. Keeps fighters in the ring. Most of the time at least.
     
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  3. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have a sense of humour. man...
     
  4. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Greggorio Peralta vs Jorge Foreman was the fight that Ali studied the tape and then came up with the "Rope a Dope" game plan.
     
  5. BCS8

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    IMO you're a dope to hang around on the rope ...

    The tactic can work but inviting a guy to punch you till he's tired has never been the best strategy.
     
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  6. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I watched it live too and that time they called it VIA Satellite television.
    To me, it was the best fight ever:campeon:
    I knew Ali could win then but I did not know how he'd do it until this ROPE A DOPE !
     
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  7. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In that case, IT can only be done by one person ONCE:campeon:
     
  8. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    No I don't believe so. Definitely not in the UK, probably not in the US, possibly somewhere else in the world.

    Attitudes have changed. People are more litigious. Modern boxing organisations are increasingly aware of their potential exposure to lawsuits, or intrusive legislation. Medical knowledge has grown around the dangers of repeated blows to the head. etc etc.

    Referees are charged with the protection of a fighter and I doubt many modern referees would allow the round upon round of one way traffic we saw in Ali v Foreman. Even if the defensive fighter was clearly executing a strategy, the pressure to stop the fight would be intense.

    I think you could do it at points as in the Mayweather example given above. It's very dangerous though, not just because of the punishment you take but the threat of the referee stopping it.
     
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  9. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In case of the threat of the referee stopping it, I don't think that it's a case since the referee won't stop the fight if you keep throwing punches against your opponent. Ali was throwing punches against Foreman while he was using Rope a Dope. He didn't just stand there to take punch after punch from Foreman.
     
  10. FloatingGhost

    FloatingGhost Some guy Full Member

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    Loose ropes helped. I think by regulation they have to be taut to certain amount of tension nowadays. But I could be wrong about that.
     
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  11. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets watch Foreman vs Peralta on youtube and you'll see how Rope and Dope was invented by Ali.
     
  12. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    Ali was actually ahead on points using rope a dope. And was outboxing Foreman.
     
  13. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I've seen the fight mate ;)

    As I said above, some of this will come down to different interpretations of the referee's role. In the UK, where there's been some very tragic outcomes in the boxing ring, there's little appetite for seeing fighters taking massive volume of punches, particularly at the higher weights. The AJ vs Takam stoppage was considered a good one by most here simply due to the volume of punches Takam had taken. In reality many of them were on the gloves, he remained in the fight and there were signs that he may have been able to perrform a rope a dope of his own in the latter rounds as AJ tired. The stoppage was convenient for AJ, but as I said, few protested it because no-one here wants to see more fighters wind up like Watson, McLellan etc.
     
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  14. piprules

    piprules Active Member Full Member

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    yup
     
  15. FloatingGhost

    FloatingGhost Some guy Full Member

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    Ali was able to lean back quite a bit making foreman reach to a certain extent. Looser ropes or a bigger fighter make that more possible. Taut ropes and a small fighter make a proper rope a dope pretty impossible it would seem.
     
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