What do you think about the Joey Gamache lawsuit ?

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  1. Former Dawg

    Former Dawg Active Member Full Member

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  2. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it's a great catalyst to place an overarching body in charge of boxing internationally to stop fighters getting hurt of killed.

    Will that happen? Unlikely.
     
  3. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Either way fighters way in, it can be abused. When you make them weigh in right before the fight, they don't have time to rehydrate and can get hurt. When they weigh in the day before you get fighters putting on 20 lbs overnight. There just is no perfect solution.
     
  4. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think having fighters weigh in right before the fight is fair. If they have to severely dehyrdrate themselves to make the weight, then that shows that they are unprofessional and shouldn't be competing in that weight class in the first place. They way things are done now, guys fight in whatever weight class they can comfortably drain down too instead of fighting at their natural weight.
     
  5. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I agree 100 percent with this. They never should have moved the weigh-ins in the first place.
     
  6. CrazyMac

    CrazyMac Nearly ExArmy Full Member

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    I'm happy with the wiegh in a day before. However I'd never heard that Gatti wieghed in at 141. If he did then i can see why the governing body have a lawsuit against them for negligence. Possibly even breach of contract if Joey was not made aware that Gatti had wieghed in at 141.
    However the governing bodies have a rules that say fighters must wiegh within so many pounds of eachother(the day before). The same reason that the Castilo v Corrales 2 was aloud to go ahead. Gamache would have been aware of this and as long as he wasn't lied to, then he shouldn't be aloud to sue
     
  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Gamache wont win anything.

    Gatti is allowed to weigh 142 for a NON title Jr WW fight. He had every right to be in over the limit unless they signed for 140 and not for non title rules.
     
  8. CrazyMac

    CrazyMac Nearly ExArmy Full Member

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    Agreed
    It's all in the contract. Gamache knew the rules and took the risks. If it turns out that the contract was signed for 140 then it's all on the governing body for allowing the fight to take place.
     
  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Yup. But if you notice throughout Gatti's career at 140, he constantly weighed in over 140 for non title fights.

    I don't see why the would be any different.

    I feel for Gamache but hes reaching just trying to get what he can after suffering brain damage.
     
  10. onepunch.net

    onepunch.net Active Member Full Member

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    If you read the lawsuit, Gamache alleges that Gatti never made the contracted weight. He alleges that the scale was set for 141, and that when Gatti stepped on the scale the bar slammed to the top and Gatti got off the scale quickly and the NYSAC official shouted "141" and ignored Johnny Bos' protests and told him to shut up.

    If that is proven, Gamache has a solid case because he was denied the knowledge of what Gatti's true weight was, and was unable to make an informed decision as to whether or not to proceed with the fight over the contracted limit. (for all they knew Gatti could have weighed 150) The fact that the commissioner shouted "141" and then told Team Gamache to shut up meant that had Gamache pulled out, he would have taken a suspension because the official indicated that Gatti had indeed made the contracted weight.

    It all comes down to whether or not the NYSAC official is full of ****.
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    We'd need to see the contract to see if the fight was under the non title rules.

    If 141 was fine for the commission then it must of been a 142 limit. And then Gamache is going to have a hard time proving his case.
     
  12. BeReal

    BeReal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    With a professional corner, they could have had gatti weigh in again, simple. Sounds like they are BSing the public with that story to help their cause.
     
  13. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    i think he's gonna have a really hard time proving/winning anything

    i mean that would just open up the litigation floodgates
     
  14. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    How exactly is Gamache and his legal team going to prove that Gatti did not weigh 141 ?
     
  15. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have little doubt that Gamache is likely in the right but unless someone just cracks and says "I know Gatti wasn't 141", I don't see how they can prove it. Maybe a refusal of a request for weighing on a different scale (if that happened) could be considered unreasonable/negligent?