What do you think should be the punishment for PED disgraces in the Sport?

Drug use is despised just as much in the Netherlands as it is in the
UK, you are ridiculous trying to make the UK look as if it is
wearing a halo.

Speaking of research, do you ever?

Just an example, about athletes in your country. And this is just
amatuers:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...s-turning-to-drugs-to-get-ahead-10031430.html

Also that blood passport is fine and dandy, and keeping the samples
for 8 years to possibly be tested over and over again, is wonderful,
but do you have any clue how long it took for a more or less reliable
EPO test to surface, after the start of its use in the 80's ? And EPO is
just one ,very high profile, example of the plethora of illegal
substances to test for.

But please carry on living in your pink bubble, and tell everyone who
disagrees with you that they are reaching for straws and do
not do any research.

 

No but you act like the UK has a standard that no other country has and you were already schooled on ANDRO and how it's NOT a PED ! But again you are clueless to what an actually PED is and to your own countries stance on their policies !

This guy was allowed to have his sentence cut in half becuase he snitched on someone else does that sound on the up and up ? So do us all a favor and shut the hell up,with your UK rhetoric ! Your country embraces cheats just as much as any other country as long as the price is right !

 

The punishment should be for the offender to be tied up and ****ly penetrated by some roided up ***ually frustrated bald headed bobybuilder who has just been released from prison after 10 years inside

That would put them off their roid addiction for life.

 

They should have stripped Peterson of both his titles when he tested positive of steroids. Matthysse knocked him out in the 3rd round and should be the IBF champion.

 

Thank God for Danny Garcia.

 

Look, you might be right about the more level playing field being a
factor, but you also might not be. You could explain Britain doing
relatively well nowadays in many ways, one of which is a supposed
more level playing field. Point is you do not know, and if at an
amateur level 22 out 5000 "re-creative" athletes are juicing, you can be
sure that at the top level it is a lot more.

I do agree with there being a much bigger "doping is a must" feeling
in the US than in most European countries. (Although the former east-
block countries were notorious back in the day).

Having said that, the naked truth, in sports as cycling etc is that if
you are not on some kind of juice, you are going to lose against the
ones that are on it. The performance difference is just too great.
There are many designer drugs especially for athletes. That means it
is a big money business, if it was not, those drugs would not be
developed. The fact it is a big money business means there are
customers, and those customers are most likely to be found among
the top athletes.

Doping is harder and needs more specialized doping doctors to be
successful within the limits of the testing/athlete passport etc. But it
is still there and widespread, also in the UK.

All I have seen of successful cycling athletes from the UK have come
from team Sky is mainly down to Wiggins and Froome if you choose to
count him as British. The same Sky team that has had Geert Leinders
as a consultant team doctor in 2011 and 2012. 2012 being the year of
the Wiggins win.

You can see things your way, and I see them mine. In the end I do
believe I have reason to doubt what kind of punishment doping
sinners deserve, since I fear just the poorest will be hit hard. Fact
remains with the proper medical care and hidden PEDS, athletes can
and do still outperform those who do not dope fairly easilly.

And like you I am mordicus against doping, it is almost as awful as
loading your gloves or taking a bat into the ring.

I just remember when everyone still believed the Armstong miracle,
and I was 99% sure he was juicing. Many people like you now, then
said that it is impossible with all the tests these riders have to do, it
would be impossible to cheat.

You should also remember that Armstong in his time was a very vocal
adversary of doping and verbally crucified cheats that got caught.

History has a way of repeating itself.

Just my two cents.

Please go on believing that people are inherently good and
incorruptible. I believe that big money always corrupt a large
percentage of people, whether they be in sports or not.

 

The UK has had more than a few fighters banned for PEDS. I didn't know the number was as high. Geez...

 

There is no "doping is a must" mentality in the United States. The world knows who is cheating and who isn't tbh. The US loves to bust those with PED use. We've busted our fair share of athletes here. I'm glad UK testing has gotten better in boxing. They've had so many cheats over there that athletes were leaving their own countries to come there and train lol.

 

Of course, I was exaggerating a bit. But among certain groups of
athletes (not just US), I do believe there is a doping is necessary idea. I
am sure that the general public is violently against cheating as well.

 

you said i support jones jr and toney. never once backed it up with proof. lmaao that the uk is a real force. andy murray wasn't **** in tennis, until he got juiced.