What do you think your favorite boxer had to do to be considered the "BEST" ever?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mandela2039, Apr 20, 2025 at 7:14 PM.


  1. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Romans 3:12 Full Member

    88
    115
    Mar 8, 2025
  2. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

    4,043
    3,195
    Jan 23, 2022
    Gomez: not lose to Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson and Alfredo Layne.
    Benitez: not lose to Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Mustapha Hamsho, Davey Moore, Matt Hilton, Carlos Herrera, Pat Lawlor and Scott Papsadora.
     
    Hotep Kemba and FThabxinfan like this.
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,636
    33,474
    Jul 4, 2014
    Chavez- stop Taylor a round earlier in the first fight and beat Pernel.

    Foreman- rematch and beat Ali and have a similar career path in his 40s.

    Toney- beat RJJ
     
    Paul McB likes this.
  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

    15,991
    17,657
    Sep 22, 2021
    If they’d rematched any time when Toney was right and himself I think he’d get Roy probably… imagine if they brought at 190lbs? That’s the real FOTC.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    26,737
    43,762
    Mar 3, 2019
    Ezzard Charles: be filmed more than an only fans model.
     
    Fogger, roughdiamond, Hi-Tech and 5 others like this.
  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

    4,852
    7,503
    Jul 18, 2018
    Rocky Marciano: miraculously heal his back, regain his passion for boxing and turn into a complete sociopath who doesn't care about his family at all and continue reigning at heavyweight for a few more years.

    Beat Tommy Jackson in 56', Patterson in 57', Ingemar in 58', Tom McNeeley in 59', with a couple random wins sprinkled in there, and then finally beat Sonny Liston in 60'. Would've made him the heavyweight goat indisputably and debatably the P4P goat, at the very least he'd be a lock at my top 5. If it isnt enough, throw in a win against Cleveland Williams or Zora Folley. By then he'd bare minimum be knocking on the door of Greb, for me.

    Honestly had his back injury not occurred and had he still had a passion for boxing, I think everything up to Liston is basically guaranteed, Liston is by far the biggest threat here. Even if Marciano is miraculously injury free despite his training and fighting style, a 37 year old Marciano against Liston is questionable. Maybe we can do something if we get him on early rounds of Dianabol? Since 60s is around when boxers started experimenting with anabolic steroids.
     
  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

    13,046
    11,193
    Mar 19, 2012
    Sugar Ray Robinson.
    Wake up in the morning and walk outside.
     
    Frankus, bolo specialist and McGrain like this.
  8. bboyrei

    bboyrei Member Full Member

    460
    764
    Aug 23, 2021
    Frazier: Beat Ali in rematches, wins against some combination of Norton, Lyle, Shavers, Young. Beat Foreman in a rematch through attrition. Beat a rising Holmes then retire for 10 years, come back and defeat Tyson.
     
    Bronze Tiger and Azik like this.
  9. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,009
    1,587
    Sep 12, 2024
    Roberto Duran:train more consistently to perform better,so he's not that vulnerable to upset losses,then steal more rounds from Hagler to beat him,and not quit vs Leonard.
     
    Fogger and bolo specialist like this.
  10. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,087
    4,463
    Feb 27, 2024
    Larry Holmes: beat Mike Tyson in 1988.
     
  11. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

    1,340
    1,956
    Jun 28, 2005
    SRR - survive the elements against Maxim, win and retire.

    There would not be any questions about whether Greb is his equal or greater.

    If Ali beats Norton by KO twice, decisively stops Frazier, rematches and stops Foreman again and decisively beats Young - could never question him at HW.

    Sweet Pea - get the rightful decision over JCC, beat ODLH and if he can beat Tito when he was higher than Macho Man and Ultimate Warrior in the 80s and I don't think anyone says Floyd is better, at all!
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2025 at 7:18 AM
    FThabxinfan and bolo specialist like this.
  12. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,705
    1,866
    May 17, 2022
    Wlad: Not lose to Brewster and Sanders. Beat Fury, Joshua, Wilder and maybe Usyk as well
    Usyk: Beat Dubois, Parker, Kabayel and maybe move down and beat Opetaia as well
    Floyd: Fight and beat prime Pacquiao and maybe Williams and Margarito as well
    Bivol: Fight and beat a younger Beterbiev, Benavidez, Smith, and move up to Cruiserweight and beat Opetaia and Ramirez again
    Lennox Lewis: Not lose to Rahman. Beat prime Tyson, Holyfield. Beat Bowe. Rematch Vitali and beat Wlad.
     
    OddR likes this.
  13. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,550
    7,004
    Jun 10, 2024
    Gavilan - find a genie who will grant your wish to become a puncher.
     
    FThabxinfan likes this.
  14. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,580
    2,901
    Oct 19, 2012
    Donald Curry: Not get involved in
    ' partying' at 25 after the Mcrory win and ruin his career. To avoid ' partying' recreations which robbed him of his dedication,reflexes and focus...and remain active . Hire Eddie Futch as his trainer post Mcrory . Avoid talking to the mendacious Ray Leonard and accepted he wasn't getting the Hagler gig.
    To have fought Mccallum in summer 1986 to win the 154 lbs title and to have defended than moved up to 160 lbs in the post April 1987 shake up.

    I beleive a prime Curry at 160 lbs couldve beat Nunn ,Kalambay and a fading 1988 Hearns. He would've shut out Duran than retired after beating Ray Leonard in late 1989 undefeated.
     
  15. MGK

    MGK New Member banned Full Member

    17
    7
    Monday
    Lomachenko should have moved back down to super featherweight after picking up a lightweight title realising he was too small for lightweight.

    And beat every possible threat/ mandatory challenger/ name possible like Gervonta Davis, Valdez, Santa Cruz, Berchelt, Farmer, Cordina, Rakhimov and so on.

    And retire undefeated putting himself in the GOAT conversation.

    He looked unbeatable at 130, there was no need for him to be undersized at 135. He'd barely have lost a round.
     
    OddR likes this.