What do you think your favorite boxer had to do to be considered the "BEST" ever?

Mandela2039 · Apr 22, 2025

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There is only one fighter that comes to mind in Boxing History, Davey Day, the Human String Bean. He was called the Dean of Defense, having never suffered a cut eye in over 250 fights amateur and pro. There is no other fighter in the World who could claim that title. He was rank #1 Lightweight and Welterweight challenger 1939. He was Barney Ross' policemen, you had to beat Davey to get a crack at Barney's title. Tony Canzoneri could have fought Ross a third (trilogy) time if accepted to fight and beat Mr. Day, he pass the offer. Armstrong, Ambers,Montanez and others wanted to fight Ross in 1937, but, refused to fight, the skinny Jew kid to get at Barneys Title. Having Davey in the same stable with Ross protected his title and prevented Mr. Day from becoming a Champion. Joe Jacobs manager of Max Schmeling offered Pian and Winch $7,500.00 for Days contract in 1934, telling them you can't do Davey any good as you have Barney Ross the Champion. Willie Pep admired Mr. Day, he was a great boxer of Golden Age of Boxing. Jimmy McLarnin said Davey would have been Champion if he worn't in the same stable with Ross. Ray Arcel said, Davey was full of class and ability and if he was around today 1990! He would be Champion in all the divisions. Mr. Day was called by Uncle Mike Jacobs around Feb. 22nd to fill a scheduled date in MSG March 31st 1939 as a substitute for Pedro Montanez who back out of the fight for Armstrong's Welterweight Title. Day had no warm -up fights prior to 3 months, Armstrong had three or four warm up fights within one month. Davey fought half the fight half blind, got that way not by Armstrong's punches but getting hit by Hanks looping elbows. Davey opened a deep gash on Henry's eye lid in the 8th round, the referee stop the fight and motioned for the commission doctor to make a decision, could have stop the fight, but let it continue for Armstrong's corner. Day pick at the wound the next three rounds and took the lead over Armstrong. As they came out for the 11th rd Armstrong hit Davey 5 time way south of the boarder, losing or is it called winning that round on a foul. In the 12th rd. Armstrong got a punch to Davey's blind side kidneys and Day went down on all fours, shaking his head, and rising to beat the count, except the referee look at Armstrong's bloody bruised face saying you could rest now , as he put his arm around Davey's shoulder and walk him to his corner. Armstrong's souvenirs from Davey was four stitches to his right eye lid ,broken hand/ fingerbone, put in a cast, bruises all over face and badly bruised left hand. Armstrong turn down $35,000 including a portion of the gate for a rematch in Chicago, that would amount to a gate of over $100,000 in a ball park. Armstrong couldn't praise Davey enough after the fight. He quoted that Day hits harder than Ross and Ambers, I couldn't a get good punch in through his defense, and Day is always dangerous, has a heart as big as his head. There is more to tell about Lou Ambers not meeting Day for the the Lightweight Title on May 22nd 1940, with the NBA stripping Lou of his title. The NBA got the 2nd high ranking Sammy Angott to meet Day for the lightweight title. The NYSBC split with the NBA and kept Ambers as their Champion. There is more to be said, at a later time. You guys might learn the real story about the Boxing racket in the 1930's. Oh, another tidbit, Jenkins, Zivic and a guy named Sugar Ray Robinson who was scheduled to fight that skinny Jewish Kid 'duck' him, if you forgot, his name is Davey Day Never Suffered a Cut. Everyword said is 100% verifiable. Check it out for yourself. The next time you see a stringbean fight, welcome back Davey. That's all for now. Thank you and good night.
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Spectacular post, i didn't even know Davey Day existed, but i'm glad i do now

Hopefully we find footage of his, i'd like to witness the prowess of the Human String Bean before i inevitably leave this world

Mandela2039 · Apr 22, 2025

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Ray Leonard, without the eye injury, and the depression that lead to drugs and partying. He Adds victories over Donald Curry , Aaron Pryor, a rematch against Hearns earlier at Jr. A third match- up against Duran , A Middleweight, fight against Hagler at the end of 1982, early 83.
A couple of wins against exciting sluggers like J . Jackson, Mugabi, etc
All winnable fights, with Hearns at Jr. Middleweight being the most dangerous.
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Personally, i think a Dark, Hollow Cold Eyed, motivated and pissed Durán transformed into the Raging Bull would be more dangerous than Hearns at Jr Md

Shay Sonya · Apr 22, 2025

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"What do you think your favorite boxer had to do to be considered the 'BEST' ever?"

In my view, nothing. He was, and still is, the GOAT! The Brown Bomber, Joseph Louis Barrow!

I suppose, in other peoples' views, he could have beaten Max Schmeling the first time, then, later, Ezzard Charles, then, later still, Rocky Marciano, before retiring. But then he would suffer from the Marciano "Undefeated-itis Disease" that plagues Rocky to this day, so I will take the Joe Louis career as it was, and still consider him The GOAT Heavyweight.

ron davis · Apr 23, 2025

Mandela2039 said: ↑

Spectacular post, i didn't even know Davey Day existed, but i'm glad i do now

Hopefully we find footage of his, i'd like to witness the prowess of the Human String Bean before i inevitably leave this world[/QUO I've been in touch Jimmy Jacobs around 1975 who had the biggest fight film collection at the time. He also had interest in Mike Tyson. He told me that he was looking for films on Mr. Day. My opinion is they probably did and destroyed it, protecting their Golden Goose Armstrong image, as it would show Armstrong in a different light, getting beat up by a half blind fighter by the name of Davey Day. It would also show that Armstrong was completely exhausted and being help out of the ring. The loser Day look better in defeat than Armstrong did in winning. One sportswriter from a negro Newspaper, said, it was a brutal fight, start to finish with blood all over the ring. In a point of fact it wasn't Daveys blood, it was Armstrong's gash eye lid that covered his whole face red.
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OddR · Apr 23, 2025

Shay Sonya said: ↑

Re:
"What do you think your favorite boxer had to do to be considered the 'BEST' ever?"

In my view, nothing. He was, and still is, the GOAT! The Brown Bomber, Joseph Louis Barrow!

I suppose, in other peoples' views, he could have beaten Max Schmeling the first time, then, later, Ezzard Charles, then, later still, Rocky Marciano, before retiring. But then he would suffer from the Marciano "Undefeated-itis Disease" that plagues Rocky to this day, so I will take the Joe Louis career as it was, and still consider him The GOAT Heavyweight.
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WW2 interrupting Louis reign wouldn't that be something from a Louis fan?

ron davis · Apr 23, 2025

Mandela2039 said: ↑

Spectacular post, i didn't even know Davey Day existed, but i'm glad i do now

Hopefully we find footage of his, i'd like to witness the prowess of the Human String Bean before i inevitably leave this world
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It would be the find of the Century, he was the classiest boxer that ever lived , to never suffer a cut eye from 250 fighters in 11 years that threw well over 10,000 punches with 6 ounce gloves and not be cut, proves how Great of a boxer he was. Did you also know, that more than 80% of his opponents got cut. The few that got knock out early may have not suffered a cut eye. All the fighters who were TKO 'd were badly cut.

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