What does a promoter do exactly...?

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  1. Stonehands

    Stonehands Member Full Member

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    Seriously. Its the social media era. If a fighter has some charisma and personality with the skills to boot, he can promote himself.

    Promo clips released on youtube such as all access are done by the networks, fighters do all the talking at press conferences.

    Legit question. What does the promoter do exactly? Why do big name fighters even need a promoter?
     
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  2. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    See Eddie Hearn, Dana White & Vince McMahon for details.
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. Stonehands

    Stonehands Member Full Member

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    Dana white promotes the BRAND ufc, it is widely known they dislike it when a fighter becomes too big unless they are company men. This is so they can keep paying out slave contracts. Conor is the only mainstream SUPERSTAR in the history of the UFC, and he got to where himself by promoting himself.

    Vince is the head of an organization, which has writers for storylines to produce mega stars to bring views to his brand.

    Eddie is an exception, I give you that. He does a great job builiding up fighters and making the public have a perception of fighters being better than they really are.

    Bob Arum came out recently and said it's Crawford's fault for not promoting himself. Which makes absolutely 0 sense to me (actually it does, if Crawford knew how to market himself he'd be a star. However, a promoter, whos job is to promote saying the fighter didn't promote himself makes no sense)

    So I ask again, what do all these promoters do????
     
  5. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He puts up the money
     
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  6. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Promoters make sure the fighters keep putting money in their pockets, while they sit back and get rich!
     
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    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Not everyone is charming
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Obviously to promote a fighter. Not every fighter has charisma and the immediate media savvy that most have to learn and even if you are someone like Naseem Hamed or Chris Eubank you still need a promoter to put you on their cards, usually on the undercard of bigger names to give you exposure to the boxing fans. Sure you have social media to expose yourself to fans but you can't fight on social media, fact is what happens in the ring is more important than anything a fighter does in the media. Shannon Briggs made a lot of noise with his let's go champ persona when trying to secure a big fight at heavyweight but without a promoter who was well connected he could never maneuver himself into a big fight. A promoter has sway with sanctioning bodies can push you up their rankings, get you minor title shots that can lead to world titles.

    You can be someone like Campbell Hatton and have the name recognition through his father and the built in fan base through that and the Man City fans but he didn't decide to turn pro being promoted by his father's small promotional outfit he signed with Matchroom to give him a bigger platform to launch his career. He had damn documentary aired on TV before he even turned pro he couldn't of done that without Matchroom's connections.

    A good promoter guides and shapes a fighters career. Has the connections via TV/Streaming networks to push his fighters to give them exposure. He also works for his fighters interests when negotiating possible fights on his fighters behalf. Like when Goosen ensured Andre Ward didn't have to fight overseas during the Super Six. A good promoter will also protect a fighter at times which is often the bad side of the game like when Newman swerved Lewis. It tainted Bowe's legacy to some degree but it ensured he kept the titles and earned Bowe more in the long run.

    Now obviously there are many terrible promoters who simply use fighters to line their own pockets and as pawns to control divisions to protect other fighters in their stables. But promoters do serve a purpose and the good ones do provide a useful service to their fighters. Unfortunately the good ones are rare.
     
  10. Stonehands

    Stonehands Member Full Member

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    Thanks brother. That was awesome. Didn't quote all of it in case someone is on their phones, but the whole post was great.
    I was thinking too shallow, simply looking at the "promote" part of promoter, and looking at examples like Floyd leaving Arum to start his own promotion and becoming an even bigger star. Never really looked too deep into the promotional side after decades of watching boxing, I guess it was time to finally ask haha. Thanks again!
     
  11. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    The lromoter has the connections today especially for non established fighters.

    Obviously a Canelo or Crawford can work freelance but Conor Benn cant.
     
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  12. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Oh my gosh where do I begin. I think a list is in order.

    1. Arranges the fight
    2. Hires the staff to run the event
    3. Books the venue
    4. Arranges the press conferences, weigh in, open workouts etc.
    5. Decides purse spilts
    6. Promotes the fight

    and they probably also do more stuff I don’t know about
     
  13. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Promoters use the standard minimal risk maximum reward strategy with fighters. This involves a lot of cherrypicking, cardstacking and what is essentially scamming the public
     
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  14. VBOX

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    Short answer is this. There are all kinds of promoters. Concert, rodeo, etc etc.
     
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  15. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    You aren’t necessarily wrong though. A fighter like Floyd or Canelo, maybe even Fury or Joshua have the bank roll that they probably do not need a promoter. They can book a venue, sign a few fighters to fight on the card including themselves and make a decent return. The problem is do they want to deal with all of that?
     
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