What does Anthony Joshua need to do to be named greatest heavyweight of all time?

What's my agenda you ****ing imbecile? I follow and appriciate all HW fighters from past or present day, unlike you who has a crush on and dick rides fighters with big mucles.

Yeah, Young did lack the punching power(so does Jennings). But an idiotic casual fan like you can't comprehend with is that you can still become an elite fighter without 1 punch power. Young did cover up a lot, so does Jennings, the difference is Young was far better at it. He was a lot harder to hit, made his opponents miss a lot more, had better movement, had much better jab and better counter-punching technique. He beat Foreman, Lyle and Shavers(and arguably Ali too) because he was an elite fighter.

I never said Joshua needs to prove himself in relation to 70s, you're twisting it because you know you're getting your ass owned. I simply pointed out the fact that Wlad was far from his best and his struggle against a small HW showed that, and also showed he wouldn't easily walk through smaller past. You got butthurt over it and made moronic claims like "Wlad didn't easily beat Jennings because he didn't want to" and went even more moronic a d claimed Jennings is better than Young after a boxrec search.

 

your first sentence shows your agenda.....Did you actually read my posts ?..i guess you did bc thats why you come back with little boxing talk and no real answer to logical point? Tell us again how Jennings made Wlad look bad or joshua struggles with less fighters in 18 fights? I'll wait? Again you simpleton you are arguing with someone who remememers spinks vs Holmes on live t.v and who's fought guys who fought wilder so please tell me this ...how the F do you continuosly post garbage? thats what you do....

hey tell me again about Usyk? Where would he rank at Hw right NOW...you stated he is a top HW and defeat most Right? hahaha ...you simpleton.

you said Wlad didnt run through Jennings as though that made a point he shows Joshua overatted..i'll wait to crush you again and again on here bc its JUSt fun! SIMPLETON!

 

OK, so you get that they are different criteria, and I apologize for merging you with @James Smith. However why then do you even mention size in this thread?

Like I said, it really does not matter if one era would beat another era because they are bigger.

And yes, you actually have a fair point that if one fighter is too dominant he misses out on the chance to have HoF/ATG opposition. Joshua would not be the first nor the last fighter to experience that. What Joshua needs to do is dominate for a long time and beat the next generation of HWs, then he's in contention. That's more or less the keys to greatness: beating guys who go on to dominate; coming back when older and KO'ing the current king of the division; to be the greatest you have to do something really incredible. Beating Wilder/Parker/Povetkin etc. is a great achievement but not in that same category.

 

You are wrong on several points so i'll only concentrate on the main one...well one can only be a ATG based on how hes percieved not actual performance whic is dumb but that the boxing world. i placed everything on relevance and comparisons not sure what you are refering too with size? But ATG is very subjective ,ive made it clear you guys shoot yourselves in the foot no matter who you like. if Parker were to k.o everyone and do it in 5 years do you really think he would be up for ATG status? you guys have to thinks on your own,i can only post logical points. Think about it.

 

Keep projecting. Your entire post shows that I have no agenda and you have no rebuttal. You moron are the one who's twisting, my second paragraph was exculisively related to boxing, where I explained and schooled your ass on how Jimmy Young was much better than Jennings.

Jennings did make Wlad look bad. Wlad looked stiff, stationary, his jab looked weaker and he showed less control in the clinches and ate more latter than he did against many of his more talented opponents. Which was pretty obvious to anyone with a brain cell(something you clearly are not).

When did I say anything about Joshua struggling with "less fighters" in 18 fights? I never made a comment about Joshua's struggles "with less fighters" in this thread. You're just talking out of your ass, which is a clear sign of getting owned and trashed the same as accusing the other poster with having an agenda.

But I'd believe that you fought fuys who fought Wilder. You fought Dustin Nichols over a burger, got beaten the living **** out of you and that's where you got your severe brain damage.

Usyk would be a top5 HW. I'd favour him over anyone except Joshua, Povetkin, Wilder and Ortiz and would give him a decent chance against the aforementioned names bar AJ.

Hey, why don't you tell me something?Do you still think fighters ability to cut the ring off depends on how they perform in a sprint race? You spastic.

 

Yeah if Parker dominated for 5 years he'd be an ATG. Same as Joshua.

I think you misunderstand me.

If this thread was about Joshua becoming an ATG I wouldn't have a problem. In fact I honestly consider that reasonably likely.

Instead, it's the "greatest of all time" talk. There's a huge difference there, and surely you realise that cleaning out today's HWs Wilder/Parker/Povetkin etc. is nowhere near enough to be the Greatest of all time.

 

too early to even talk about this. The guys he has to beat and the reign as champ he has to have means the guys he will have to beat are not even in the rankings yet. How easy do you guys think it takes to be the greatest ever? A few wins?

 

Well again no one would be arguing my point if they read my posts on just this thread. the fanboys and detractors do this all the time...go ahead re read my entire post on this thread and then let me know what i didnt cover ? I didnt miss anything on labeling an ATG status,.. joshuas 19 win against Klitchko already surpass Tysons win against far less talent Berbick doesnt it? All my years of boxing i cant actually think of an accomplished feat in that period of time and caliber of opposition can you? If so please give me the fight?

Ali beat liston at 20 fights in but liston was not Klitchko. Ali was also a very well groomed amateur,Joshua wasnt.

 

lol...No one of serious boxing study thinks Young is a more dangerous and better skilled fighter than Jennings...lol...i wont bother reading beyond that skimming through it and the other simpleton unleash idiocy is what you have......save face simpleton and just leave the thread!

 

Jimmy Young is better than Jennings at every department. Only an idiotic dick rider who DKSAB would deny that. And unlike you, I've seen every single one of Jennings' pro fights that's on YT.

And you did read the rest of it, but are just too mentally incapable to debate with me and you're starting to realize that again. What you'll do next is run to the mods and try to get me banned again like the little ***** you are.

 

So what does young do that makes him better than jennings ? He would be schooled and out punched bc Young is not an Ortiz or Wlad..you simpleton. Jennings is also a very adaptable fighter outside a jab and has has great adaptable skills..young never had that and relied on slow tempo fights where he only fought to a opponenets lack of engagement why also he defeated scary monster unbeatable foreman when he tried to use actual smarts to outbox him,..


The mods wont ban me im informative and show actual facts bc im not stupid though you would like that bc thats what resides on here correct? lAnd i wouldnt be able to show everyone on here just how stupid you actually are right? though you do that yourself so its little work on my part.

 

I already schooled you on that so I'm just gonna copy paste here:

Yeah, Young did lack the punching power(so does Jennings). But an idiotic casual fan like you can't comprehend with is that you can still become an elite fighter without 1 punch power. Young did cover up a lot, so does Jennings, the difference is Young was far better at it. He was a lot harder to hit, made his opponents miss a lot more, had better movement, had much better jab and better counter-punching technique. He beat Foreman, Lyle and Shavers(and arguably Ali too) because he was an elite fighter.

And Jennings isn't adaptable. He most of the times tries to keep the fight on the closr range, he barely counter punches and barely utilizes foot movement even when he has speed and reach advantage, which was the case against Ortiz and Perez.

Who said anything about you getting banned you moron? I wouldn't want you to get banned(but you're too idiotic to not get banned) I enjoy spankning your ass here. I was talking about you trying to get me banned by running to the mods like you did last time.

And "wouldnt be able to shopw evewrtyone on her ejust" what the **** does this mean? Is it a ******ed language for spastics like you?

 

like i said you should just have saved face and left as is. Jennings would knock out young 3 out of 5 times..young would never be favored over him so there goes the entire debate ...go catch it out the window...lol

By stating he was elite shows that whoever beats Jennings is elite too...man your dumb!

You mentioned banning again are you drinking when you post?that would explain why you post such garbage to me...come back tomorrow when you are sober!

 

"Young would never be favoured over Jennings so there goes the entire debate." What the hell kind of an idiotic come back is that? Learn what a debate is kid. In case your elders forgot to tell you, you can't win it by trying saying that your opinion is a fact.

I mentioned you trying to get me banned moron, which is what you did like a ***** the last time I owned you.

 

i never even talked to the mods simpleton..that would be you!

Keeping it on boxing ...no Young is far less skilled and smaller to be favored over Jennings.

you NEED that to be considerd fact otherwise the debate ends here..and it has ended!

Tell us all again why Joshua is overatted bc he could beat 41 yr old Wlad who is much better than Young at any age???Meanwhile you have Usyk already a top 5 HW? See how you connect puzzle pieces simpleton.? ..you actually have to use logic when coming at me ...and thats doom for anyone outside a IQ of a potato chip like you.

the only fact on here is you are a true idiot but we both know this ,i believe most will too if they read all the posts on here...