What does being drained mean?

Might be a question for the lounge. You would sure get some interesting answers to this question there

 

It's a good question. I suspect it depends more on the fighter and how much. It can be physically taxing to drain an exorbitant amount of water before a weigh in (Even if you can rehydrate I suspect, as some damage has been done). In the case of Dawson, I don't know how much that played a factor. As far as I know you basically drain water before a weigh in, and while Dawson hasn't weighed in at 168 in over 6 years he should've only drained mostly more water. I don't know how much he had to lose or drain going into the fight, as that's usually an indication of a fighter being debilitated. In the case of Dawson, there are rumors that suggest he was KOed in sparring by Miranda. If he were concussed within a week of the fight, that could have played just as much of a factor on his form and liveliness for the Ward fight.

Draining is what Chavez apparently did when he had to lose 16 pounds the day before a fight. That's basically just going to mess with your body in a way that would affect your performance. I suspect a fighter like Rios drains quite a bit to make LWW too. It's an interesting topic, because there are two camps of philosophy. Drain yourself down as much as you can without affecting performance and then come in as big and as fit as you can. This is what Chavez does and apparently what Danny Garcia does (At least according to Nazim). Others have pointed toward Pacquiao as a example of how supremely fight and strong a fighter can be if they perform at a weight that's optimally suited around their walking weight. Some argue the same for the conditioning and performance of Mayweather.

 

I believe it's mainly a question of electrolytes.

If done properly and with suppliments, there is no science to support the idea that a re-hydrated fighter should be weaker. I think it's more of a "common myth." Sort of like "sex weakens legs."

The psychological factor, however, could be significant. Also, it's harder to train well in the weeks leading up to the fight, since you are also limiting caloric intake, but it's not impossible.

Yet another reason to hire a qualified S&C coach.

 

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Without being too scientific, it means working so hard to cut you lose your strength in the process. I believe in it from what I've seen in others and felt slighly myself. It's especially bad for kids long term imo.

 

Your the one with reading comprehension problems if you come to a forum wanting a precise physiological explanation of what it means to be drained. **** I doubt any us are doctors or S&C coaches...

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It doesn't have a precise meaning. - "To be without energy, dehydrated etc etc"

 

I think the best way to put it would be something like this. The reduction of weight to the extent that doesn't allow a fighter to perform at his best physically.

As well as this being 'drained' appears to effect mainly stamina, power and energy levels. I think it can also mentally effect your drive and concentration.

 

Question though about Dawson at 175 lbs and weighing the same when he fought at 168 lbs.

I was wondering if him rehydrating 17 pounds which will all have to water weight. And him rehydrating 10 pounds to weigh the same when fighting at 175 lbs , could that show that he had 7 pounds extra muscle at 185 lbs whilst fighting at 175 compared to fighting at 168 lbs and weighing 185 lbs on fight night?

If the above makes any since.

 

Dawson had to cut 7 extra lbs before he sweat out the final weight, which really weakened him. Chad, if you've ever seen him in person, is a big guy. 6"3 and likely walking around close to 200. He was 190 in the ring for Glen Johnson 3 years ago. 168 was just too far to come down. His legs were gone. So were his reflexes and punch resistance.

 

Means you're at the front of the cue to fight Pacquaio.

 

Only Pac's opponents can be drained, no one else.

 

Almost every fighter in boxing cuts weight. Most of them do it on purpose, to get an advantage. It's obviously a problem if you overdue it, but cutting weight is a part of life in boxing.