What does boxing look like without the obsession with belts or today’s “Champions”?

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  1. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyone on here with a good idea? I have gotten zero sleep in the passed 24 hours so I’m not trying to think too hard on the situation.

    But considering one can be a “champ” by being emailed the title, elevated, or take a vacant title against a nobody. Or take the belt through politicking because you know a guy is contracted to a network with your demands to fight on your network or pricing yourself out just to see him stripped. If you’re that kind of “champion”. It defeats the purpose no?

    It just looks to me to allow a whole lot of ducking and letting a promotional organisation hold a division (and the fighter’s they force into contracts under their terms) hostage.
     
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  2. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I say the WBA should strip Bivol and lets have the Canelo vs Bivol fight anyway. Strip Beterbiev, let’s have the Beterbiev vs Smith fight next anyway. It’s just more money for the fighters and we still get the fights we want. Same with Haney vs Kambo, the fight should happen because at this point it is THE fight to make in that division. Regardless of the belt shenanigans.
     
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  3. The G-Man

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    It would look better.
     
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  4. Jpreisser

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    Trimming the fat by making one champion per class would make the sport and its fans so much more streamlined and bearable. Listening to people constantly hype up alphabet trinkets and conflate them to actual championships is one of the most grating aspects of the sport. Go look at the Anthony Joshua thread, where people prop up his credentials as a former "unified champ", despite him never actually becoming THE Champ. In a bygone era, the majority of these titleholders would have been contenders. If we had one crown, we wouldn't have to deal with all of the modern guesswork. Instead, we would have a system by which all men could be judged by.
     
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  5. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Heavyweights would look something like this:

    Champion: Tyson Fury
    #1 Contender: Oleksandr Usyk
    #2 Contender: Anthony Joshua
    #3 Contender: Deontay Wilder
    #4 Contender: Dillian Whyte
    #5 Contender: Joseph Parker
    #6 Contender: Andy Ruiz, Jr.
    #7 Contender: Luis Ortiz
    #8 Contender: Joe Joyce
    #9 Contender: Filip Hrgovic
    #10 Contender: Frank Sanchez

    -Ratings by Ring Magazine, February 26, 2022.
     
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  6. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is the actual top 5. Maybe a case could be made for Usyk at 1 or top with Fury.

    The same could be said for most divisions. People know who the best is without the belts, in most cases.
     
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