What Does Calzaghe Been Knocked Down in the First Round of his Last 2 Fights Tell Us

imo the reason he got dumped on his backside is because he falls in to punch and gets caught on way in. hopkins punch was a peach where as roy's was a clothesline.

i think he's to up for it he wants to trade to early and impress american fans.

but the guy gets up like a true champion and fights on.

 

i think it is a slip to start with which is why JC's head was in the position to get hit by RJJ's arm if he had not had the slight slip that could have been his fist joes face connected with.

The Bhop punch was perfect in every sense but it shows that JC does not show enough respect at the start of a fight it is not that he has a weak chin he stuck it out and let RJJ have 3 hits at it without flinching and the uppercut in the 6th was brutal.

it is the ones he does not see that put him down

 

Only a Joe fan could turn the fact that he got caught, and knocked on his arse into a good thing. To be fair the Jones knockdown was a bit of a freak occurrence - unlike the Hopkins one which was a proper executed blow. Calzaghe did recover exceptionally well from both knockdowns - they may have taken lesser chins out (or noses in this case). You could argue though that neither opponent had enough in the tank to risk trying to go for the kill, after Joe was stunned - that neither tested out his resolve immediately after the knockdown.

 

both were in the first round, saying they had nothing in the bank to finish him especialy Jones is kinda stupid.

 

No it isn't. Jones was shot to pieces, he hasn't finished anyone off in over FIVE YEARS. If he couldn't stop Hanshaw or Trinidad after he floored them, do you seriously think he thought he could do so to Calzaghe? And you saw the difficulty the 43-year-old Hopkins had maintaining his stamina in the Calzaghe fight as it was, and that was with careful and strategic energy conservation. Had he went all-out to finish Calzaghe in the first and not managed it, he wouldn't have made it through the fight himself, and he knew it.

 

that is kinda funny you say this cause dont tell me jones tought he could win a decision over Joe especialy talking about stamia... his only chance was to take him out whent he had him hurt but Joe stood up and kept on fighting thats why it didnt work

 

Donnie Brasco :good

 

It didn't work coz Jones didn't go for it, first and foremost. He knew he wouldn't be able to stop Calzaghe, that's why he clearly did not try to. Your point seems logical, but if actually watch round 5 of the third Tarver fight, and round 11 of the Hanshaw fight, and the KDs in the Trinidad fight, if you actually watch them you'll notice that when Jones has anyone hurt these days, he backs off and chooses not to try to finish them. This may be a mental thing, but it is quite clearly just another reason why the guy is shot to bits and has been for years.

 

It's his way. Many boxers enter the ring with a single strategy he adapts that's what makes him such a good boxer. He has limits and constantly pushes them but uses his obvious strengths and limits to outbox his opponents.

Point in question: Whether he won or lost has anyone else adapted to Hopkins so well?

 

If we can make any assessment about the two first round knockdowns, it is that Calzaghe came into to the fight cold in his last two outings. I noticed before the Jones fight that Calzaghe looked a little "dry" while the announcements took place.

I think his mental toughness and physical abilities makes him careless at times.

 

It tells me he that if he fought Dawson he wouldn't get back up

 

No its not at all - in fact your post is just that.

Neither pressed, or even tried to turn on the pressure - in even on the off chance they could cause further damage while Joe was slightly dazed. Partly the reason for that is that if they failed to get the KO the fight would have been finished as boths stamina nowadays would have very soon be done

Of cause they could have gone for it as it was the first round, and were not fatigued at that point, but if they had, and failed they would have been done - fight over - as their stamina past round one. I wasn't stating that they didn't have the stamina in round one, but any excursion would have ruined both their game plans as they are both budgeting stamina for later on - a younger fighter doesn't have to do this, and can turn on the pressure with out worrying they wontmake it past round 3.

Given their current states they obviously both believed that pot shotting was a far less risky strategy to get the KO, rather then an all out assault in round one, and risk being spent if it fails - a younger fighter can do both.

 

I was surprised Joe's head didnt enter orbit with that superb uppercut Roy landed later ! Just goes to show how solid Joe's chin is.That punch was clearly a lot harder than the one landed in the first round.

 

all it means is that if he fought those two guys 5 years ago, they would have jumped on him and ****ed him up instead of trying to conserve energy, true story

 

I agree. :happy