What does each guy have to do to win (Floyd vs hatton)

Mayweather: Stick and move. Lure Hatton in and counter him coming in. Of course, throw the occasional hard-punch every now and then to show you still have something so Hatton has some respect for him.

Hatton: Fight aggressively, use good, constant head movement coming in and once he gets there, start ripping shots to the body and back upstairs. Clinch, hold and hit Mayweather's body with the free hand. Muscle him around, make it an ugly fight and DO NOT give Floyd any room to even breathe. Be all over him like flies on ****. Hit anything you can hit. The arms, elbows, shoulders, hips ect. Dont try to be perfect and look for a one punch KO

 

Floyd: SHow up, box, stay off the ropes, and not injure his hands.

HAtton: Maul Floyd like a bengal tiger, hit him anywhere he can, shoulder, arms, side, even a low blow or two to slow PBF down (I dont condone this), keep Floyd on the ropes, stay out of the center of the ring. COnserve his energy have plenty of gas for the championship rounds, give floyd a lot of movement wheh coming in, fight the fight of his life. Pray that Floyd underestimates him. And all this may not even be enough.

 

floyd needs to box long range in my eyes and keep frustrating hatton with pure boxing ability. if floyds ego gets in the way and stands his ground then i think hatton will win on points by sheer workrate. remember hatton averages 20 more ounches a round than pbf.

 

PBF has to make it through 12 rounds w/o getting ko'd, thats it. It seems that not more than 1 of the judges in any PBF fights are capable of scoring against him.

 

Hatton says Floyd will run the whole fight, but if his back hits the ropes, Hatton can probably catch him. I agree, I think Floyd will be hard to catch, but Hatton will eventually run him up against the ropes and nail him.

 

To win, I think Hatton needs to bring
























a baseball bat into the ring with him.

And use it, liberaly.

 

Floyd - Make the weight

Hatton - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Hatton has to make it ugly, bang, hold, push, low blow, head butt whatever.
Don't let it get into rythms, and not let it look like a boxing match. I don't see him holding his own in a boxing match.

Mayweather has to "Make it do what it do" HE has to use handspeed and foot speed, but also put something heavy on Hatton sometimes to keep him honest like he did Oscar.

We know that slick technical boxers tend to be bothered by unconventional things in the ring. Those are things that you have not honed your skills for.
That can be an advantage for Hatton
On the other hand the advantage for Floyd could be that some people think the harder puncher can "Pressure" the other guy, but that's how you can walk into some things that make you not want to pressure so much anymore.

 

American sense or Scottish sense? :think


Floyd: Mix up running and loading up. He should mostly aim to move, counter, hold and then stare at Cortez like a lost puppy in order to get an early break (the Ali method). He needs to be willing to not throw much in some rounds in order to work hard in others. At the same time, he needs to throw some big bombs (by his standards) now and again to get Hatton's respect. Most saliently of all, however, is his need to keep his composure. I'm sure the loser of this fight will be the person who gets uncentred and then finds himself unable to get back into the fight (similar to Kessler-Calzaghe in that respect).

Hatton: The body, the body, the body. Hatton needs to throw no head shots aside from the jab (and maybe some arm punches to get inside behind) and only throw big punches to the body for the first 6-8 rounds. A good pattern for Hatton would be to flick the jab out there to attract Floyd's attention, then follow in behind it with full footspeed (slightly to his left, methinks, because I suspect PBF will mostly move in a clockwise direction) and hit the body with his head moving. Once inside, he needs to resist the temptation to stop working, and instead maul/grapple/hit and hold/use the head etc. In the later rounds, he needs to look to the head in order to impress the judges. When doing so, Hatton has to combine hooks and arching punches with uppercuts, in order to make it difficult for PBF to move his head out of the way.

As an overall strategy, on the outside he needs to have style over substance; be seen to be doing something, regardless of its effectiveness. On the inside, he has to have substance (read: cause damage by any means necessary) over style.

Make no mistake: either man could win, and either man could win in a dominant fashion. Both are very difficult to deal with once they get into a rhythm; a lot will depend on who establishes themselves in the first 3-5 rounds. I lean towards Hatton because I consider him more likely to execute a do-or-die strategy, but if PBF fights as I would tell him to, it's hard to see Hatton beating him.

 

Floyd has onof the best defenses since Jack johnson. We'll see how good Ricky Hatton's offense really is! I think if he can corner him, and get his punches off Rickys wins. 'IF'

 

By "big punches", I mean anything that's not a light jab. Hatton shouldn't load up much with his body punches; they should have steam, but not too much steam. The important thing is that they should be non-stop.

Hatton will be countered silly in this fight no matter what. Focusing on the body will at least take a lot of power off of Floyd's punches, and will make PBF less likely to throw in the later rounds.

I agree; I didn't make a point of this, since throwing a lot of punches is taken for granted with Ricky. However, with Hatton it's not so much a choice between powerful punches and numerous punches, as it is a choice between accuracy and volume. Hatton has the stamina to throw loads of hard punches for 12 rounds; if he wants to be more precise and flashy however, he has to sacrifice work-rate (this was one of the negative parts of the Urango fight). Obviously, trying to be flashy against Floyd is a waste of time.

I said it needs to be flicked, not that it needs to be laid out there. I don't think Hatton, with his short arms, can land jabs on Floyd at any frequency whatsoever. What he can do with it is SUGGEST a hard jab, which will get Floyd's head moving. If he's very lucky, Floyd will throw a premature counter-right; Hatton will then slip to his left and throw a hard left to the body.


Just to correct one of my points in the original post: when I said Hatton needs to move to the left, I meant Floyd's left, not Hatton's.

 

In keeping with the usual conventions of usage here, and given that it is a BASEBALL bat, I believe the American sense is indicated.