What does everyone think about the overrated Margarito now??

He is a bit over-rated after Cotto. Styles make fights. Cotto's defence & work-rate/tempo weren't up to it. Margarito is great but not invincible

 

The boxing fans on here, about 1% of the total posters, think he contributed to a great fight Saturday night, one we all enjoyed. We also hope he gets some more big fights off the back of this, unifications etc. The other 99% are made up of morons who probably think something else.

 

I'm guessing you haven't saw his fight with Paul Williams because no such thing ever happened. He lost the Williams fight because he didn't do a whole lot of work in the first 6 rounds. I give Williams credit for that, but Margarito could have surely made more effort to impose his will on his man. He was able to do it in the middle rounds and won 5 of the last 6 rounds on my scorecard if I remember corrently.

I would categorise Miguel Cotto as a slick boxer, and he certainly looked that way in the first six rounds of the fight. Margarito imposed his will, doubling up his uppercut inside, and got through with a few chopping right hands. From that moment on, the slick boxer was a spent force.

I'll be supporting Margarito.

I don't think Margarito is overrated, ESB has just become more aware of the stylistic problems he poses for the majority of fighters in the 147lb division. He is strong, can punch, has endless staminia, and he doesn't get hurt. No fighter is invincible, and up until this point I've never heard anybody suggest he was, but he is certainly a force to be reckoned with.

Antonio Margarito is not an overrated fighter simply because he is getting the recognition perhaps he deserved when he had Santos on the verge of a knockout at Light Middleweight.

 

Honestly Size isnt a factor moreso than it is "Style" that is the issue with Marg. He can beat guys his size just as easily as guys smaller than him. It's the why someone fights him that gives Tony trouble.

With Paul his physical advantages did give him something extra as icing on the cake....but his style is crafty, slick and relentless. Paul's got some skills man....the thing about paul is his work rate, stamina and Chin are on level with Marg or surpasses him in one or two of the categories mentioned.

Paul is gonna be hard for anyone to beat....Quintana I feel beat a young man in Paul the first time they met. I think Paul had a very off night where Carlos had a VERY ON night. The rematch showed what I had thought originally...that "Paul was not himself" for the initial fight.

 

Calm down there son. Don't get your nuts stuck in your mouth! Paul did an outstanding job imposing his gameplan that night, but to say it was a "Boxing lesson" you'd have to provide something tangible or real. That was a very competitive and close fight.....Although Paul was the clear winner. A Boxing lesson is what you saw in the PAC vs Diaz fight. That was actually a very vicious boxing lesson.

 

I always felt Cotto was overrated. So Margo's win does not surprise me in the least. Margo was impressive with the type of victory he got however. He's not great. Only very good. His record proves this point. So please don't go hyping margo as some great fighter, because he's not.

 

You're not a hater...just a little misunderstood with regards to Marg....Marg is a GREAT Fighter....he's just not a Great boxer. It's his "FIGHT" that allows him to beat "Boxers" who seem to be a bit more fluid and tecnical.

Marg is a fighter through and through. He has boxing skills but Marg fights with alot of passion and reckless abandon. He's not crazy wild or anything but he has a way of tucking his chin and diving in to a warzone head first guns blazin.

He definitly has method it's just one that is not as common as it was in the golden era of boxing. it's refreshing to have a true throwback fighter like the Carmen Bassilio's and the Lamattas that made boxing so dramatic.

 

Overrated?? I think ANY boxer who is good gets over rated by FANS, or "Fanatics". But respectively Cotto deserves his praise and accolades. He paid the cost to be the boss....unfortunately there is a new Boss by the name of Antonio Margarito.

But that's not a soild form of proof to say that Cotto is over rated b/c Marg is a serious foe for anyone at 147. In all reality cotto is one of the best at 147 today and he is definitley an ELITE level guy. Is he better than a prime Tito or DLH...probably not, but lets get back to the present.....he's still young and he still is in his prime...

Lets hope this set back is more of a blessing to shoot his ass off to that next pleateau! Not just for Cotto in loosing but for Marg in finally getting a career defining victory that has been long over due.

 

As a ESB poster once said...he's tougher than coffin nails! That saying has stuck in my mind as well as what an old friend said 35 years ago...never let the truth stand in the way of a good story!

This was Tony's first what I would call 'Tier 1' victory. Forget about the hateful *******s...it will take a little time for the fans to digest this heroic victory.

 

A lot people on here sometimes seem to forget that these guys FIGHT for a living. The bout ended on Saturday night because the 'superior boxer' was gushing blood from his face and couldn't stand up anymore.

You can theory-craft all you want about who would beat Margarito and why he's overrated, but the fact is that at this point in his career, he'll kick the **** out of 99% of the welterweights in the world on a given night and that makes him an elite fighter. Name a fighter in the WW division with a better chin and conditioning? He also has very impressive power and can apply relentless pressure.

Most of the hating comes from people who don't like this style of fighting and prefer flashier fighters like Mayweather.

 

Get a grip clown!atsch Jeez...take a breather cup cake and "RE-Read" what I said. I said "in 1 or 2 of the catagories". That is up for debate. Work rate Paul PROVED he has the higher work rate by his preformance with Marg and by his consistancy overall. that's is a given. Stamina! That is a touch subject b/c it's hard to tell who has more stamina.

Paul had the higher output overall but began to tire in the later rounds with Tony.....Tony however didn't really start until mid way in PW vs AM 1. But I rarely ever see either man tired after 12 rounds. Chin! That is also debatable but I'll give that to Marg since he's been in the game for a lot longer....Paul has been rocked but not badly...the same with Tony.

Calm down bro....calling me an idiot for your mistake actually highlights your mental deficiencies!

 

Oh...and just so that you don't think I agree with your post.....Paul has tremendous boxing skills! Both in offesne as well as Defense. You say Cotto has better "D". I won't call you an idiot, I'll let you post and prove my point.

Paul doesnt really get hit often......Paul didn't look good in the Quintana fight. He was getting hit more than EVER.

But when you fight like Paul or Marg, throwing a lot of punches, guess what? You are leaving yourself open! the more you punch the more openings you are leaving open as targets for your opposition.

Paul actually uses a lot of movement and angles in his style which is why he seldom gets hit....just watch any of his fights minus the Carlos Quintana fight. He is hard to hit flush, even when he is throwing. He really has an awkward style which is why I think he is the man to beat.

 

I mean....go easy on him. Paul is fresh homie. he's a young gun making big moves. Of course his resume is lacking some names but you beat a guy like Margarito and you earn some RESPECT. How much is up to the individual but the way Marg beat Cotto should help with Paul's value that is for sure.

no question marg has proved it more than Paul but lets look at their numbers in terms of age, fights, rounds, experience ect...ect... and you have an unfair comparision b/c Marg wins on seniority alone.