Yeah but raw brawling is gonna make it easier for Floyd to get on his bike, pot-shot and counter-punch his way to a UD. If hatton comes screaming in brawling Floyd, in straight lines, not thinking about cutting off the ring or creating angles, then surely all Floyd has to do is pepper him with countersand step off as Hatton's on his way in? Hatton has to be a bit smarter than that to get past Floyd.
I don't want to start one more pro or contra Mayweather thread. I only want to remind some people of one of the big fights of Mayweather's career (which is forgotten by many), which offers an example of how he can be beaten. As I mentioned above, watch the Castillo vs. Mayweather fight. Most people who think PBF is unbeatable are under the influence of the great show industry about Mayweather. Those people should watch once again the fight mentioned above, by which Mayweather's big time started - in fact by a scandalous decision. He is certainly not unbeatable (to me, he already has been beaten at least once, by Castillo), he's just the actual boxing star (by which I don't deny his qualities, but he's not the only one who's got big qualities). His mythology is created (cf. Castillo vs. Mayweather) and supported by the boxing industry. And I'm convinced that, despite Mayweather's excellent defensive and counterpunching abilities, the best and maybe only way to beat him is through constant pressure. That's why I mentioned the Castillo-fight, which gives us an example for a winning strategy against Mayweather (in fact, Mayweather's record should be 37-1, including the fight Mayweather lost against Castillo). In my eyes Hatton is the man to put him under pressure.
Sorry I have watched that fight like 5 times, Floyd did not lose the first fight to Castillo. The man broke his right hand in the 4th round and what I saw was this, Floyd blocking most of his shots, Castillo to his credit did better then most men against him but he did not win by any means, it could've been close, but he did not win and the second fight he just got blown away. The 1st fight Floyd stayed in the pocket with him and I believe Floyd got the cleaner hits in on the inside. It was a close fight and the right man won that night.
:think Snakefist, OK, I'll watch the fight again and then, as this is not the right place for this, we'll have to open a new thread for this discussion, as this sort of discussions never end in boxing (which is one of it's greatest charms).:yep
Snakefist, although, we maybe don't speak of the same bout. Mayweather doesn't hurt his hand in this fight, but against Carlos Hernandez. I'm talking of the fight from 2002-04-20, Mayweather with yellow/white trunks.
He needs to get wwf on him wrestle him and fight dirty, he needs to hit and old and put pressure on floyd, he needs to go to the body and wear him out. If he tries to box floyd he loses 100% if he can get the fight into a brawl without being dq'ed or getting major deductions from the ref he has a great shot.
The problem with the "pressure" argument (which everyone seems to make) is that Hatton is pretty easy to hit when he comes in. Caastillo was not. Hatton is very obvious when he is about to make his little charges and even drops his hands a lot as he dips to come forward-suicide against a man as fast, accurate and aware as Mayweather. Floyd is the single most accurate puncher I have ever seen in boxing. Castillo did pressure Floyd, but that was a younger Floyd-remember he's gotten a LOT of confidence since then: Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya and a demolition of Gatti. i think hatton has very little chance in this fight. I think his only chance is NOT Castillos pressure and cut of the ring approach, but a to turn it into a game of elbows, forearms, head "bumping" and wrestling, use his strength to wear down Mayweather and frustrate him, get him all flustered and perhaps in the later rounds start to land some bigger shots...but I honestly don't see him being able to catch up with floyd early enough to do this. And the fight is in Vegas so he will not be able to count on a ref letting him get away with this stuff-a la Tszyu-we'll see.
I think this fight will be less close than people imagine-I see a totally dominant performance by Floyd. I hope this gets some of the nay sayers off his back. I think he is a spoiled childish brat who needs to grow up. i also do not think he is as good as SRR who had one punch knockout power in both hands and fought close to 200 professional fights over 25 years. But I DO think he is vastly under appreciated is a top 10 or certainly 20 all timer who has fought many great fighters and won all of them. He also diisplays some of the most unique and skilled tecnique ever displayed and is amazingly cool headed while doing it. He is a pheenominal, all time great who has been totaly underappreciated by the public...even if he is an annoying pain in the ass!
Hadrian, I guess you're right, and this is really gonna be a tough fight for Hatton, but making pressure on Mayweather is certainly the better way than not making pressure. There is no universal strategy of course.
Oh yeah and all of you who say Mayweathers oposition is questionable and he didn't "clean out" divisions" He beat: Osar De La Hoya, Jose Louis Castillo 2x, Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah, Chop-chop Corley, Jesus Chavez, Diego Corralles, Carlos Hernandez, Sharba Mitchel, Genero Hernandez etc. ect. While some of these guys were past their best some of them were totaly at their peak-Corrales was 33-0 with like 29kos. I'd say at least haf were in their prime window of performance. So give the brat a break-he is number one in this era and BY A LOT.
Easier said than done, but Hatton has to limit Floyds movement by cutting off the ring, not following him.With Floyd on the ropes Hatton has to employ his own footwork, ever so subtlely , stepping to the left or right to keep Mayweather from sliding away.But thats only half the battle, because Floyd has the reflexes to beat Hatton to the punch even while they fight on the inside.Floyds been hit just as hard as Hatton could hit him , maybe even harder, so one big shot won't turn it around.The only chance Ricky has is if he can grind Floyd down, but Mayweather hasn't shown the vulnerability to slow as the fight progresses, in fact its Pretty Boy who usually finishes stronger.I guess what i'm saying is that i'm not sure Hatton has what it takes to beat Floyd in a month of Sundays.
Hatton has to be in peak physical condition, maybe better than Floyd or as good so he can chase him all night long. He's going to be eating shots trying to get close and he has to be prepared for it. Mentally, I think Hatton needs to be prepared that he's going to look bad against Floyd. Might be like Marciano-Walcott. Just keep coming forward, eating some shots for every one landed, and score a come from behind KO late. All of this is easier said than done, of course. Always looks good on paper.