What does Joe Joyce need to do to beat Daniel Dubois?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Boxera, Sep 14, 2020.

  1. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Well-Known Member Full Member

    Dec 6, 2019
    The key for Joyce here is going to be timing Dubois' jab a landing his right hand over the top of it. That would take Dubois' most effective weapon out of the fight.
    Joe has a considerable size advantage and I don't believe Daniel can push him back without his jab.
  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

    Feb 25, 2012
    Its a big ask tbh. The speed disparities huge and joyce pretty much has the wrong tools for the job.

    You dont take guys like dubois on head on...got to soften them up....tire them out first etc. Joyce only really goes one way. The problem is dubois will end up making him hesitant to come forward. From there he doesnt really have much to offer.

    Pretty much stuck fighting dubois fight.

    Its a great bit of match making from warren. A decent fighter and name in joyce...but one thats big strengths will be nullified by dubois.

    Could be wrong but its hard to find a way for joyce. Going forward like he does against dubois...will end up only a matter of time before he gets caught with something big.
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  3. AJH

    AJH Member Full Member

    Jul 5, 2018
    I hope it's an absolute classic and Joyce wins actually! Dubois can then come again he has plenty of time to develop.

    But for Joyce, this could then see another Brit at the top of the HW Division.

    Unfortunately, I cannot see past a Dubois victory unless Joyce can somehow fight in fast forward speed.
  4. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Active Member Full Member

    Apr 29, 2020
    And often....
  5. Patrick Trueman

    Patrick Trueman New Member banned Full Member

    Jul 24, 2020
    Can't believe people are writing Joyce off.

    Joe Joyce has beaten
    Filip Hrgovic, Magomedrasul Medzhidov, Ivan Dychko, Tony Yoka, Bakhodir Jalolov, Viktor Vykhryst, Frazer Clarke (x 4), Gasan Gimbatov, Bryant Jennings, Bermaine Stiverne
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  6. Twentyman

    Twentyman John Fury’s nut sack.... Full Member

    Apr 20, 2016
    The fight with Hrgovic must have been like someone was messing with the space time continuum.
  7. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

    Feb 13, 2014
    It looked good until you got to the last name...

    The danger signs for me are the last two you mention, and given their recency they're worth paying attention to. I don't think he beat Jennings *that* clearly. From memory I think I had it 7-5. Jennings is a decent boxer, but one past his best. And he had Joyce hurt to the body. Stylistically nothing alike Dubois though, so perhaps not worth paying attention to.
    Stiverne was an alright fighter at one point. That point has passed. The ease at which he was landing on Joyce is of huge concern IMO
  8. jm2729v

    jm2729v Active Member Full Member

    Jun 15, 2016
    Forget them fighting the real challenge is how to promote these two socially awkward robots? If Warren pulls that off he might actually deserve his HOF status!
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  9. khans army

    khans army New Member banned Full Member

    Oct 7, 2020
    He needs a time machine cause hes too old an slow

    Dubois is the future of boxing
  10. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @excelsioroptimum Full Member

    Apr 30, 2017
    I was over at Stallards gym this afternoon, Joyce been getting some quality sparring in with Fabio Wardley and new Sam Jones signing Solomon Dacres.
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  11. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

    Dec 28, 2016
  12. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 31, 2010
    Lovely MONTAGE. This is a fight of real substance.
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  13. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Member Full Member

    Nov 24, 2019
    Joyce will have to avoid early rush from Dubois who will definitely try to knock out Joyce in the early rounds...
  14. nurological

    nurological Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 25, 2012
    I think Dubois will be quite patient and get his jab going and wait for the opportunity.

    To be fair the opportunity will be there all night near enough.
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  15. Twentyman

    Twentyman John Fury’s nut sack.... Full Member

    Apr 20, 2016
    Surely Joyce has gotta try and go back to his initial style when he turned over. He used a lot more footwork, tried to make them miss & counter with his own. He had more speed and was renowned for his engine. I’m really not sure what happened in them 3 years but he has slowed considerably, his footwork has become very pedestrian, his hand speed is like slow motion and his defence is shoddy. He’s picked up so many bad habits.