What does Pavlik gain by fighting a Senior??

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  1. JLightningFys

    JLightningFys Member Full Member

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    B Hop is coming off a Loss, not even a good loss a bunch of holding and grabbing. That fight with Joe looked like a senior prom with all that holding and dancing. Kelly has nothing to gain really by beating him. If he losses then he loss to a 43 y/o B hop, If he wins he beat a 43 y/o b hop. Lose Lose situation. He would've been better off taking the Winky fight!


    What do u think??
     
    JLightningFys, Jul 20, 2008
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  2. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    Pavlik will make a lot of money, which he will likely lose in the ensuing elder-abuse lawsuit.
     
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  3. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    what did calzaghe gain? its all the same
     
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  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    If he loses he loses to a legend ! Stop disrespecting the man by calling him a senior !
     
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  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Some felt that Hopkins beat Clazaghe!!!! Amazing. Whomever KO's Hopinks old school style with his fists will earn some bones with that hard core fight crowd. I think that, and a lot of money is what Pavlik has to gain.
     
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  6. Galileo Galilei

    Galileo Galilei Active Member Full Member

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    Hops is older but still a tough, schooled, vet.

    Deserves top 20 pfp and some say top 10.

    Pavlik gains his biggest or second biggest win.

    Big $ and becomes more well known with the general sports population.

    A win over Hops is nothing to sneeze at.
     
    Galileo Galilei, Jul 20, 2008
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  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Money! Nothing else.
     
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  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Top Rank is just looking to grow the Pavlik brand with a win over the name Hopkins - if that happens.
     
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  9. Jambon

    Jambon Active Member Full Member

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    He could gain a match against Calzaghe.
     
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  10. ya-ni

    ya-ni Guest

    I see hopkins taking this by late stoppage,,,,palvik best victory was against taylor who did not fight with heart in either fight, his own trainer quit, i got to say that hopkins will be as game as you can get, an he taking no chances, he dosn't wan't a rematch with joe, he wants this overhyped white-hype for a send off,,,,smart move on hopkins side,,,,,an what the hell are they thinking in youngstown, there got to be another lockett out there
     
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  11. PH|LLA

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    he gains more credit than he did for fighting Gary Lockett, and more than he would fighting Winky Wright, Sergio Mora, or Paul Williams

    He also gains invaluable experience against one of the smartest boxers in the world.
     
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  12. Suge Green

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    Pavlik won the title from the champion installed by the partnership of Lou DiBella and Hollywood Boxing Office...to beat Hopkins is to be beat the rightful champion...a legend, a champion, and the accomplishment would be Kelly's most impressive conquests should he be victorious,,,
     
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  13. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    experience. though i think this is a no win situation for pavlik as well. if pavlik wins easy, he beat an old man. if pavlik struggles, he's garbage.
     
    Carlos Primera, Jul 20, 2008
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  14. JLightningFys

    JLightningFys Member Full Member

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    I get what everyone is saying but I just feel that If he wins, then everyone will just say, This was an old Bhop and that he couldn't beat him in his prime. I just don't want the age difference and the fact that he is coming off a loss be more of the discussion.

    Don't get me wrong, I like b hop but as of late all of his fights are less exciting than any fight on Wednesday Night Fights. He holds a lot as of late and doesn't throw to many punches. This would be a fight that I believe B Hop could win with his counter punches, but we will see.
     
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  15. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't get your reasoning. Who has beaten Hopkins easy recently and who hasn't struggled against him? If Pavlik wins clearly, it should be a great accomplishment for a young fighter.
     
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