What Does This Fight Say About Tua?

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  1. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some valid points on here
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Holyfield's and Hopkins of the world have stuck around into their 40's because they have something very important tha most of you boxing fans take for granted.
    Its called "boxing skill."

    Its the fighter that relies on boxing skill that can usually still compete against top contenders of their weight division.

    Fighters like Tua and Tyson (seek and destroyers) fizzle out quicker because they dont have the luxury of skill and savy to find their way around the physical deficiencies that come with getting older.

    Evander Holyfield for example never lost to the Danny Williams and McBrides of the world that Tyson lost to.


    Just think people, name me one short small Heavyweight in the mold of Tyson or Tua who was still contending in his late 30's????????

    Prime Tua vs prime BarretT, Tua likely demolishes Barrett.

    Shot Tua vs Shot Barrett, Barrett with his height, reach and skill finds the avenues with his savy to outbox Tua.

    Barrett always had decent skill, and he can always turn to that, but Tua was never reliant on boxing skill, and he cant turn back the clock to re-capture the explosiveness he once had as a young man.
     
  3. RoosterC

    RoosterC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's funny, 40 years ago they said a boxer was getting old at 30, now some of the kids today think 38 is young.

    Anyone who played a pro sport, or at least a high level amateur one knows very well that being 25 is better than being 30, and way better than being 35.

    Tua is very old and what matters more than his advanced age is he has no heart or drive for this sport anymore.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That he will truly ultimately NEVER be a world champion (if anyone had lingering doubts)
     
  5. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't be so ignorant. I did not say he was young.


    You know, there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with me as long as your points are valid because I don't regard my opinion as incontrovertible or flawless but instead of bringing up debatable points like Tua fighting a young man's style making his age relevant, you talk about crap you've no idea of. How are you supposed to know what's inside his head?
     
  6. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agree. He's done as far as being a world class contender.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Only if you limit that phrase to mean the "major" sanctioning bodies.

    He can still set his sights on Holyfield for the WBF belt. :lol:

    It would be a dream come true for nineties HW scene nostalgia clingers.
     
  8. lefe

    lefe Active Member Full Member

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    You should be at Bernard Hopkins corner.Tell him that 35 is old,and 38 very old.40 years ago is 40 years ago,we don't living in past.Today training methods are different,nutrition is different,medicine is different,boxers takes less punishment and dont have 15 rounds.people live longer and athletes last longer.Bernard Hopkins at highest level,Glen Johnson at highest level,Vitali Klitschko,Antonio Tarver,Juan manuel Marquez,Sergio Martinez...They are all 35+ and they should listen to you and stop at 30?
     
  9. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very good post. :good

    These are certainly different times than 40 years ago. VERY different as far as nutrition, proper training and conditioning has advanced, and as a result, athletes can continue to perform at the highest level well past what they could four decades ago.
     
  10. Fan88

    Fan88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I still pick Tua over guys like Thomson, Dimitrenko or Chagaev.
     
  11. fighting_J

    fighting_J Member Full Member

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    IMO, Tua was an exciting fighter to watch back 10+ years ago. He always seemed to have trouble keeping his weight down, and I think that was always a problem for him. I remember watching the Lewis fight, being positive that Tua would knock him out. Alas, Lewis's reach kept him at a distance and pummled him with jabs all night. I'm still a Tua fan, and always like watching him fight. At his age and out of shape however, I think his competitive days are behind him. He always has a punchers chance though, and I would love to see him get in shape and have one more good run at the title.
     
  12. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love Tua but Thompson would school him. Oddly enough, I do believe he'd be competitive against Chagaev though.
     
  13. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    no. not even agaisnt this Chagaev with aids.

    Tua is beyond horrible.
     
  14. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Until Tua loses 20 lbs, it probably is laughable to assume he'd beat any top 10 HW...
     
  15. Fists o Foreman

    Fists o Foreman Member Full Member

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    Tua's just had trouble with Barrett in 2 fights, and not been impressive against the likes of journey men Demetrice King and Friday Ahunanya in his last few fights.
    Chagaev is a level above these guys......and you think Tua will be competitive against Chagaev.......I don't think so!;)