What does Wladimir Klitshcko need to do in order to secure his legacy?

1. YEs a bit, 2 top10 contenders, both decent up and comers.

2. 2009 the Haye fight will be the big fight, this is a legacy fight if Haye looks impressive against a top10 HW. This could be a career definer. Wins over PEter would mean something if Peter beats Vitali. A Chagaev win adds a bit to his legacy too.

To make Top15 Wlad needs allot of defenses because:

1. The division is weak
2. He has embarrasing losses

 

1. The Thompson win is ok because it counts as a title defense against a top ten fighter. If he beats Povetkin it would arguably be his biggest win, and would move him up a notch or two.

2. The Peter win would help a little but he already beat him and since then he was nearly stopped by McCline. The Chageav win would help his legacy more than any other. A win over an undefeated former champion with wins over Valuev, Virchis, and Ruiz. Chageav has solid power, a solid chin, and is a very good counterpuncher.

If he beats Thompson, Peter, Chageav, and Povetkin he moves into my top twenty although some will depend on the manner in which he does it.

 

Fight danderous opponents and actually fight them.........Every all time great has had good fights not boxing matches but good fights there is a difference...the only fights hes been in so far he got knocked out

 

he needs to continue to clean the divsion out. beating thompson, povetkin, and either the wba or wbc titlist would secure him as the top big man of the era. to expect someone to unify all 4 belts is ridiculous. after that, there is no real big name out there. Haye is not a threat in my mind and i expect him to be knocked out before getting a chance at wlad. so just keep winning against top 10 guys and he will secure a solid legacy.

just as important, he must dominate and knock these fools out.

 

He needs to face as many young, hungry, dangerous contenders as he can, because there's no real ATG fights in the immediate future (unless Povetkin or somebody goes on to become an ATG after a loss to Wladimir).

Wins like Brewster II won't cut it. I'll take a win over a journeyman who comes to fight over a washed up ex-champ like that.

Sometimes a name is just a name, after all.

 

He already has a very impressive resume. Not top10 material to be sure, but still very good.

A Win over Thompson would be good, a win over Povetkin would be great. Povetkin is an olympic gold medalist who throws 70 punches a round despite being 220lbs, has excellent technique and combinations and beat a lot of tough competition with only a handful of pro fights.

A rematch with Peter would be big, seeing as to how Peter has been racking up wins ever since their fight. He did struggle with McCline and Toney (first time) however.

A Chagaev win would impress me more. Even though the Russian hasn't done much since he won the belt, wins over Valuev, Ruiz and Virchis (a bigger, cruder and just as powerful version of Foreman) as well as his amateur record would make this win mean a lot.


I would pick him to beat all of them, but of course that doesn't mean he can get by all of them, career-wise. And there's a good chance he'll have to deal with another useless Austin-like mandatory in between.


If he fights all of those, then he will have fought a lot of contenders during the recent years and another loss (unless it's a first round knockout against Sprott) wouldn't set him back that far, considering the wins that also came with it. Let us not forget that Walcott and Charles, whom i think quite highly of and should rank higher than him, also had their fare shares of losses.

 

Perform 500% better than he did against Ibragimov! If he meets all the top 10 and stops them I still wont think much of him ,they are a very poor bunch imo.

 

It is? Why, its been done before, it will be done again. Maybe vacating the WBO, he should at least try and secure WBC-WBA-IBF.

To be honest, Wlad's only chance of going down as a great HW is to become undisputed Champion. He has a poor resume, which is not going to get much better - there is simply nobody great to fight. His three losses drag him down, he has NO defining wins, he has NO great rivalries etc.

His current resume, plus wins over Povetkin, Haye, Thompson, Chagaev and Peter......DO NOT give him a great reume, and DO NOT make him a top 15-10 ATG, as many would have you believe.

He has not even (he has started to in fairness) dominated this WEAK era. Wlad's best case scenario legacy wise, is to go down as the dominant champion in a poor era - And the first undisputed champion since Lewis. Unifying IBF-WBC-WBA will make him top 25-20. Reestablishing a lineage is significant, and it can define his career in a way that his resume cannot.

 

Povetkin is the only real fighter out of the lot and he is not ready for Wlad yet, I saw some of Thompson on Youtube and he will be lucky to last two, Wlad needs to fight Peter again who has improved despite the Mcline debacle.

 

Yeah, and if he knocks out Peter then the Nigerian was ruined by McCline anyway...

YouTube doesn't do any fighter good because of the low quality. And Chagaev's resume is at least on par if not better than Peter's.

 

Chagaev's a bum and a fat 1. Anyone that gets bashed up against the ropes by Skeleton needs not be mentioned. Danny Williams beat Skeleton allot better than Chagaev did

 

Gotta love the keyboard fans, the only place where a professional fighter and heavyweight beltholder is a "fat bum".

 

OK sorry Skeleton is the GOAT, his skills are sublime, Larry Holmes says 'I'm so lucky a man of Skeletons skill wasn't around in my era', happy now? :nut

Chagaev is just another lard ass in the HW climate with decent skills, but nothing outstanding about him.

 

Needs to accomplish a lot more..I cud walk down the street n ask 5 people who he is and noone would kno..