What else could Pacquiao's side have done to persuade Floyd to agree already?

void is void...

 

-- Gag agreement - Wrong. This only stops him from dilvulging information and influencing negotiations. Doesn't stop him from giving status.
-- Crappy contract -Wrong again. He can say that the terms were bad after Arum said that he was sent the contarct. He could have even said the contract never existed if Arum was lying. Once again doesn't prevent him from talking.
-- On vacation - Wrong. He has representatives. Plenty of celebrities make statements through a representative while awhile. It's very common. Also now that I think of it, he just came out with a statement about the ESPY award he just won. Hardly not in the talking mood.
-- ESPN are a-holes - Who cares. All the more reason for him to talk now to make himself no look like a coward and instead expose Arum for the fraud/liar or whatever he is.

None of what you say prevents Floyd from speaking. These may be excuses for why he doesn't want to speak. But they in no way prevents him from speaking. Do you see the difference now?

There you go again with this blame Mayweather this. How exactly am I blaming Floyd? I want him to speak. I want him to negotiate. How else can they make this fight if he just ignores everyone? Do you really want this fight to go down or not?

 

Wow man. You don't see how a "deadline clock" influences negotiations so is therefore a part of negotiations?

-- So now you are privy to the gag agreement?
-- See the first one?
-- According to you? Hell who knows Maybe Ellerbe went with him?
-- Mayweather cares? Nothing Mayweather says changes the tone of ESPN reporting. They hate him. They attack him. Always have. Always will.

Now you are splitting hairs. The result is the exact same. He isn't talking. Why in the hell would ANYONE in their right mind with the power to avoid it deal with this crap on vacation? To make you happy? Right. There really is nothing to negotiate. You know this. USADA testing and +50%. If the contract doesn't say it what is the point of discussion? Just gives Arum power.

Damn right I want this fight. The problem is that I accept that if Arum doesn't get his head out of his butt the fight won't happen. I didn't orchestrate the Clottey flop. I didn't agree then refuse USADA drug testing. I didn't lie about a 14 day testing cut off. Arum and Pac did all of this. Now the entire boxing public is paying the price for it.

 

Man you are dense. Let me type it out line by line so it's easy for you to understand. I'll even number it.

1. Gag order, if it existed, was for the negotiations.
2. When Arum declared that the terms were agreed to and a final proposal was sent, they were no longer negotiating. Doesn't matter if Arum was lying or what, point is that he was no longer negotiating, hence the supposed contract.
3. Since they've stopped negotiation Floyd and whoever can freely speak up if they wanted it. In fact, they could have spoke up even during negotiations as long as they did not directly mention details about it.
4. The deadline clock came AFTER negotiations were done and a contract was made so how can it influence "negotiations"?
5. Floyd actually just made a statement about the ESPY awards. How is he unable to speak if he wanted to?

Also if you really want this fight to go down, then why aren't you and all his fans encouraging him to speak up instead of making up excuses for why he isn't talking? If he hates the terms, then say so. If the terms are in fact crap it's probably best to say so right now. That way the media can start to pressure Arum and Pac into making further concessions until they truly agree. His silence is helping no one.

 

Surely if Arum was lying, team Mayweather would have came straight out and said the contract is bull****? Instead of sitting in silence and having people think he is the one doing the ducking.

the silence might be a good thing. It might be that Mayweather is a bout to say yes

 

Thats a lie.

 

Take the test randomly with not cut off dateatsch

 

This is to hard for *******s to understand. Try writing it backwards.

 

I am not dense. You are just one tracked on he needs to talk to you. For damn what?

1. Negotiations aren't over until the contract is signed. Just because you present your side doesn't mean negotiations are "over".
2. Arum NEVER talked to ANYONE directly. We don't even know what FMJ did or didn't see. So only Arum is saying this.
3. Who said they STARTED? Arum.
4. Again your only source is Arum.
5. Back on to "want to" :roll:

Look man you are so used to Arum's by the second press releases you are in full on panic mode. Nothing is stoping Mayweather from talking, but nothing is actually spurring him to talk.

Personally I glean more from what Arum is saying than from what Mayweather isn't saying. Arum not entertaining fights with top competitors tells me something about Pac and Arum. Arum going back and forth about drug testing tells me something about Pac.

He never said negotiations started and you have whipped yourself into a frenzy from the words of an admitted liar? I am dense?

 

Scared as a motha ****a:rofl:rofl

 

Of drug testing?

Yes Pac is.

 

Holy **** you are dense. It takes TWO people to negotiate. Arums says all terms were agreed to, and that the FINAL proposal was sent. It doesn't matter if he was lying or not. If Arum stopped negotiation, how can it still be on going? Not to mention that the gag order DOES NOT prevent you from speaking about the negotiation in general.
You also like to backpedal. You said the last thing Floyd said was he was on vacations. Proven false again from his ESPY statement.

Yes he can speak if he wants to, so you agree then? So stop making excuses for him bringing up this gag order **** as there is nothing preventing him to do so.

 

Why? Not like it changes the media presentation of him or his position.

The last fight was killed over drug testing. What clean fighter won't do drug testing that is done by the Olympics? They blamed FMJ.

Then FMJ backed off and gave a 14 day testing cut off, Arum LIED said it wasn't offered, then the arbitrator called him out for lying, then he admitted he lied, but killed the fight anyway. They blamed FMJ.

Pac flops with Clottey, Mosley underwent USADA testing, and Mayweather's fight is a smashing success. Pac is now back wanting the old contract terms, but FMJ is wrong for not accepting them?

ESPN sports casters who have never taken a punch are on the news calling Mayweather a "coward" when they haven't even seen the contract.

This crap is enough to push any man into F the boxing media silence. Arum even admitted he wasn't talking to anyone directly.

 

No moron. You are highlighting that you really don't know anything about how these negotiations went. Arum never spoke directly to ANYONE representing Mayweather. He alleges a contact at HBO was in contact with Haymon. Alleges.

Over and over, Arum says, Arum says... Do you see WTF is wrong here? Beyond that negotiation doesn't stop until the contract is SIGNED. Putting a deadline on the negotiations is a negotiation tactic moron.

I am not even going to speak gag order with you again when Arum said there was a gag order and proceeded to violate it. I am starting to believe that there were never negotiations to start with. Just Arum in fantasy land like all salesmen. You never know if they are selling or themselves.

Ugh... a statement about a fun award you won is NOT the same as a statement about negotiations.

I never said he couldn't speak if he wanted to. Agreeing to keep a gag order doesn't stop a person from speaking. It just implies that they shouldn't. To harp on that is ignorant. The point is that there is no point in him talking. Arum has always been a lying snake and there is no reason to believe he has changed now.