What else could Pacquiao's side have done to persuade Floyd to agree already?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zone36, Jul 17, 2010.


  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All Floyd had to do, was say there was no agreement and that would have been fine. He didn't.

    You can't sit here and defend Floyd's name, when he had the chance to do it for himself and didn't. He could have spoken to one of his advisors, who he will speak to every day and just said "Listen, make it clear there is no offer" but that didn't happen. He has had weeks to make it clear that something is up.

    If you're playing Devil's Advocate, fair enough. I just don't see how Mayweather can be defended this time. If it was bull****, he would have said so or Ellerbe would or anyone else in Mayweather's camp. They didn't. They either didn't because they're stupid or they simply don't mind seeing their fighters name dragged through the mud and him being accused of cowardice.
     
  2. boni1980

    boni1980 Member Full Member

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    TANGINA bakla si mayweather ayaw labanan si manny
     
  3. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    or, arum could have never started his deadline b/s, and we would have never had to put up with any of this b/s


    don't blame mayweather (or pac) for arum's b/s
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    FMJ doesn't have to do anything. So all we have to do is wait.

    I am more panning Arum as a dishonest scumbag than defending Mayweather. We don't know what the hell happened. We do know for a fact that Arum NEVER talked to ANYONE directly. Mayweather NEVER said they even ENTERED into negotiations. So how in the hell did Arum present a "contract"?

    The fact that Arum can go into the media with impunity is complete BS. Not one of these boxing "journalists" have said, "Hold the hell up. Where is the Golden Boy or Team Mayweather statement that says negotiations even started?" Last statement we got from Mayweather was, "How can I be negotiating when I am on vacation?" That says it all.

    You guys ALWAYS accuse Mayweather of cowardice. Then after he beats the ass of the person you guys said he feared you then make a ton of excuses. Funny thing is that you guys don't see the cowardice of Manny facing one of two recently KTFO fighters. One of which was recently busted for cheating. Both are out of his weight class. Especially when there are a ton of game guys at his weight. It is what it is.
     
  5. wendel

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    Man, I don't really use profanity, but you are stupid. Do you know what it means to negotiate? It means you communicate between two parties. Once the communication stops you are no longer negotiating. You can choose to resume it later if you want, but for now it has stopped. Have you ever bought a house or a car? Or maybe you're too young to fathom such things.

    EVEN IF they were still negotiating, you can still TALK about it. I really don't understand how this isn't getting into your head. You can talk about it without violating anything in the gag order. You can say that not all agreements were reached. You can say a lot of things that in no way would influence negotiations.

    Who cares if Arum is going through HBO. What does it matter? Communication is communication. The message reaches both sides is all that matter. In fact is better this way. You have a middle man to be unbiased.

    Yes Arum says this and that. I would also say Floyd said this and that if Floyd said anything at all!

    Also YOU made a big deal of this vacation nonsense. YOU brought it up as a reason why Floyd isn't talking. I refuted by saying it wasn't his last statement, hence the ESPY awards.
     
  6. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And MAYWEATHER family are RIGHTEOUS, right DUDE? :hat
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No need to use profanity. Nothing makes sense to you because you are trying to argue from a position of IGNORANCE. Therefore you can't process why there has been no response from Mayweather.

    If you had KNOWLEDGE you would know that Arum was basically "negotiating" with himself because the other side never acknowledged they were in negotiations. I am not one of these ESB children. So save you pissant comments. Have you ever negotiated? If a guy slaps a deadline on you and says sign or I walk that is PART OF THE NEGOTIATION.
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    Exactly my point about your IGNORANCE of what went on. Who was Bob Arum negotiating with? Arum has been the ONLY person blabbing about this from the start. He was also the only one talking about a gag order. It is Arum in fantasy land moron. I was just giving you other reasons such as actually respecting the gag order, but when you analyze it? Maybe this was all fantasy.
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    Um Mayweather cares? Exactly how do you know it reached both sides? Oh that is right Arum. As of June 10th Ellerbe said they were NOT in negotiations, but you trust Arum right?
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    No FMJ never says much when negotiating a fight. Never has. Now when he is about to fight? You can't shut him up. The only times you hear from him are leading up to and directly after a fight. Then he is back off the radar. Like I said, you are ignorant.
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    Moron it was the content of the statement. He and Ellerbe openly said there were no negotiations on multiple occasions! Vacation was just one of them. Google it! An ESPY award statement does not invalidate their position of NOT bieng in negotiations.

    I swear man you are not too quick on the uptake. You are like one of those dumb people who keeps repeating himself in different tones feeling he made a point. Nothing I am saying to you makes sense because you don't have the understanding to analyze the data.
     
  8. wendel

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    Dude you just contradicted yourself. If Arum was negotiating with himself then there IS NO GAG order since they are not negotiating. Which is it? You can't have it both ways.
    You obviously have no idea what you are talking about as basic logic eludes you.
    Arums comes out and says that all terms have been reach and that a final proposal was sent. He even set a deadline to ACCEPT. How in the world doe **** show that Arum is continuing to negotiate?
    If no one is talking then there is no negotiation. There's nothing to this. It's pretty simple.
    Anyways I have things to do today, so you can talk to yourself cause I won't reply since you're obviously some kid who's dying to get the last word in.
     
  9. cloud_cyc

    cloud_cyc p4p demon Full Member

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    translation : tangna (son of a *****), bakla (gay), ayaw (doesn't want to), labanan (fight/to fight)...

    = son of a *****. mayweather is gay, he doesn't to fight manny
     
  10. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He just wants to make sure everyone is at the same fair even level with no cheating, that sounds fair to me...
     
  11. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean Floyd decided to take a vacation because Arum put a deadline on him? :patsch

    Are you ok with Floyd taking a vacation now?
     
  12. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's so complicated to understand about that?
     
  13. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Arum should not have given Floyd a deadline. Floyd goes by his own clock, not Arum's. Picture of Floyd's clock below:













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  14. mangtas

    mangtas Guest

    :rofl bok bok bok bok!!!!!!
     
  15. KikoMatsing

    KikoMatsing Galit Kami Sa Baboy Full Member

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    70/30 for floyd plus blood test before fight time