What Exactly Do Morales, Barrera, or Marquez Do Better Than One Willie Pep?

Or specificaly, what would they do in a h2h to beat him... because I am watching the Cadilli tape and I just don't see it.

Pep is incredible. I would go so far as to say that the fighter I am seeing here has me thinking he was the better fighter than Robinson h2h ,although I know Robinson's best days aren't on film. More than likely (yes, thats it come to think of it) I am just intoxicated at the moment with the movement, cleverness, and range of skills I see in him. He has the best attributes of a composite of our best fighters today and that doesn't describe him justly. He is a 2035 year model fighting in the 1940's.

But I diverge. My main point is that I would be interested to hear who you have beating this man in his best form. I can't imagine many personaly.

 

IMO the best arguement for a win from this class of three would be for Marquez and his counterpunching abilities. I see Pep beating Barrera or Morales in a 8-4/ 10-5 scenario. Morales, especially, would be extremely frustrated with Pep and would walk to him and be countered fairly easily.

Marquez is a masterful counterpuncher and holds that distinction over Pep, but I see Pep's jab being every bit as effective as that of Barrera.

Moreover anything, Pep is masterful at everything defensive. His footwork is effortless and graceful. At range, he slips, ducks off to the side, or parries shots off with the glove. In close he rolls under punches with ease. His positioning is always near perfect, no matter what the distance. In the clinches he knows exactly where he is and tucks his head neatly where it need be, picking up his opponents movements tactily with his own arms and adjusting accordingly. Then he does things like turning Cadili 180 degrees. He is incredibly intuitive and always two steps ahead.

 

Yes I was over zealous, but I couldn't help it. Pep is incredible though.

Out of curiosity, have you or Brooklyn ever watched a fighter and felt this type of feeling, that maybe he was the best or one of? And that the consensus picks are wrong?

I have had this two times- with RJJ and Pep tonight. Its never happened with my other favorites like Barrera, Gavilan, Arguello, etc. Strange.

 

Utube?

 

Actualy, this is something I forgot in my response to Brooklyn, and you are exactly right. Pep seems a much more offensive fighter than his youtube footage would make someone think. There were times in the fight I was watching tonight that he let his hands fly, and I can easily see with the combination of his widely known defense, and as you say his very underated offense, why you would have him as your #1.

 

I'm a little thrown by this. I see Pep picking up a cadence on Pac fairly quickly and finding a way to avoid his left hand. More over, I see him using his jab and footwork- especially given that he seems to be able to move perpetually through a long fight without tiring- to keep Pac from being able to set his feet. Seems that if Pep could get a guage on Pac's cadence, a disciplined effort would give him the decision.

Or is it not the left hand you are worried about but rather the preasure over many rounds that Pac presents? I am curious.

Marquez is the guy I see giving him the toughest scrap, due to his ability to counterpunch and vary his timing and rythym through a long fight, and for his high Nacho Beristain guard that would require Willy to commit a little more and thus open up countering oportunities. He has the adaptability I feel one needs to beat Pep, although I don't see him doing it.