What exactly will it take to get Wilder in the ring with AJ?

And I suppose the fake 50 million two line email offer from Wilder ( the only one anyone associated with team Wilder has made) included details of Deontays potential earnings right!?

 

But wilder has the money to pay off the judges? LMAO

 

I doubt it has to be on showtime strictly, as long as Dazn and Showtime copromote and it’s 50/50 the deal gets signed

 

You're being willfully ignorant if you think it's that simple. You think a judge who is being pampered by the promoter, wined and dined, but up in a nice hotel, isn't being influenced? How about the effect of a home town crowd cheering every punch or even the missed punches, you think that doesn't help the hometown fighter?

What if you score against the promoters fighter, you think you'll get hired again by that same promoter? It's in the judges best interest to give the promoters fighter the benefit of the doubt if a round is close, or even if it isn't that close. Wilder or his promoters don't even have to bribe the judges, the system is already corrupt. It should be a local commission that pays the judges, that decides which judges are used but that would mean a level of impartiality that isn't in the promoters best interest.

 

How can a subscription service with a 20 dollar entry fee co promote with a $90 ppv platform? It's a non starter. Besides, after the scorecards at the Staples Centre Hearn won't allow AJ anywhere near a PBC promotion.

 

Joshua changes his name to Dominic Breazeale by deed poll and rocks up on the 18th.

But seriously, I just don’t know. I do believe that Wilder is tied to Showtime, regardless of what he says. However, showtime have not really shown a desire to make this fight. Yes, we’ve heard words, but in my experience actions will always speak louder.

All I’m seeing is genuine moves on Joshua and DAZN’s side to make the fight, but zero from Wilder’s side. They’ve even gone as far as saying they don’t need to fight Joshua!

I’m starting to think it won’t happen.

 

So team wilder especially the promoter did had money 50 million to offer Joshua correct? You making my argument. And the thing is wilder hometown isnt in la unless I'm wrong lol.

 

Great post!!!

Once again you cut through the misperceptions and get to the reality of the matter. Good job.

 

How would that work though, it's not as easy when HBO and Showtime did it as they were similar platforms.

Does Showtime charge $80-100 bucks for the PPV while DAZN charges it's now $19.99? Don't think Showtime will like that as they will be undercut and will of course not get many PPV buys.

Do DAZN do a PPV and charge the same as Showtime? I can't see that happening as that goes against their biggest selling point which is that it will be better value than the current PPV system. If DAZN start doing PPV it will literally kill off any chance they have of succeeding in becoming a dominant force in boxing as everyone will know that for all the big fights it will charge PPV so why bother switching from the current system to DAZN as eventually you'll be paying $80 bucks for every good and not so good fight.

 

Showtime ppl have said they have no problem working a deal with dazn ppl to make wilder vs Joshua a reality. Ppl still ignoring facts that the real reason wilder didn't sign a contract with dazn is because dazn ppl and hearn refuse to tell team wilder what Joshua purse will be if wilder vs joshua fight. They have a right to know what the opponents of their fighter is getting.

 

Now you're just twisting things to suit your narrative and ignoring my point completely to suit your view. I never said they had the 50 mill, not saying they didn't either though.

Fact is nobody but Wilder's team knows if they really had $50 mill. What we do know is that it was offered and when Hearn asked to meet to discuss, Finkel refused. So Hearn asked for a contract to be sent so he could see their terms as they were unwilling to discuss it. Espinosa said he sent it, Hearns says it was never sent, Espinosa then clarified he didn't send a contract but a term sheet and when asked to show this term sheet said he couldn't because he didn't send it Wilder did via email, which Hearn says never happened. To this date the supposed term sheet that was emailed has never been seen.

 

And you believe everything hearns said?

 

You’re just proving my point. It’s just words.

And with regard to knowing what Joshua is getting, it shouldn’t matter. It’s not PPV so there’s no split, it’s just individual deals, and in that regard Wilder has no right to know what Joshua may be getting. People are getting bogged down with the wrong details and are overlooking the simplicity of what this is; a business offer. That is it, and that is all. I’ve already heard so many excuses coming from Wilder’s side, beyond the laughable one that you have stated. They’ve ranged from “They were dictating terms, and we won’t be dictated to” to “Why can’t we just do the Joshua fight” and one of them was apparently that they just want a one fight deal.

Also let’s not forget that they’ve also said that they would rather let the fight grow. Take your pick of reasons/excuses.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, team Wilder are in danger of cutting off their nose to spite their face.

 

Then where is Showtime and Wilder's team's offer if they are willing to work with DAZN? According to Finkel it's coming and should be sometime in our lifetime lol. I mean could you get any more evasive.

People are not ignoring the fact that they didn't disclose Joshua's pay, they just see it as another attempt for Wilder to try and get 50/50 which he does not deserve based on their ability to draw. Asking for 50/50 when you are the clear B-side is simply pricing yourself out and a duck.

 

Not at all but if Hearn is lying Espinosa only needs to release the email or to be accurate Wilder does as apparently Espinosa had nothing to do with it and it was Wilder himself that sent the term sheet. Espinosa and Wilder could utterly humiliate and prove Hearn is lying by just releasing this term sheet, but we're still waiting. I wonder why.