What factors come into play in having a great chin??or lack of??

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  1. stillafan

    stillafan Member Full Member

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    all this talk about great chins, and glass jaws makes me wonder this question...

    WHAT FACTORS COME INTO PLAY IN A FIGHTER HAVING A gREAT CHIN?? or a glass JAW???


    Id really like ot see one of those myth buster tv programs analyse this subject....ive heard that it is genetics, ive heard its neck strenth, thickness of skull....people have different ideas about this subject....has any research been done on this subject??

    how can some guys take an absolute beating ala Castillo/Corrales, Moraes/Barrera1, etc etc ...and some guys get tapped on the chin and its lightsout!!!!!!!!!


    anyone have any idea of what physical factors, genetic factors go into having a great chin?? or a bad chin??
     
  2. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Conditioning,thick neck, and mental toughness.
     
  3. joeboxer

    joeboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I honestly think its stance and mental toughness. Vitali and Wladimir have pretty similar skulls, jaws etc. But Wlad sells out on punches more putting himself in danger. when Vitali takes a big punch, its usually when his opponnent is closer in and attacking. Wlad, when he is tired and out of position.
    People say Toney has a great chin...is it chin strength? or where he is hit. He hangs on the ropes and gets hit by short arm punches most of the time.
     
  4. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Its obvious that a strong chin is a mixture of tangible traits plus the intangible. For instance a guy like Baldomir does not just have physical features of a man with a strong chin but he also has a mental/physcological advantage, if you can't dent him in the first couple punches or rounds some fighters already decide to take less of their punches and work more on points. Also add in the fact that Baldo understands he does not have the relfexes of a cat therefore he tends to brace himself for an attack almost every second of the fight. This is why quick fighters are usually known for have less punch resistance because they rely on their reflexes and punch avoidance rather than punch resistance. Its all relative, some people can simply point to weight drain which is totally justifiable because essentially the more erratic the flow of fluid is in the brain the more likely you are to reacting slower and more likely you are to black out because of the lack of cushion in the skull.
     
  5. stillafan

    stillafan Member Full Member

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    I think mental toughness might play a part....
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    A lot of it is genetic, but other factors include a thick skull and a big neck.
     
  7. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Whatever Hopkins has, thats what it takes.

    Keep your chin tucked.
     
  8. stillafan

    stillafan Member Full Member

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    thats seems true.....but what about fighters that heads bobble like bobble heads but seem to stay standing....like Morales/Barrera1 or Castillo/Chico......some of theose punches made those guys heads look like they were gonna fall off and they stayed standing for some of those shots...Castillo was even still standing while KOd
     
  9. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    also rolling with the punches like james toney does helps take away from the power of the punch thats being landed
     
  10. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    thick short neck - tua, tyson, peter, mccall
     
  11. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    michael moorer had the thickest neck of any heavywieght champion and he didnt have the best chin. A thick neck could help though
     
  12. Langford

    Langford Active Member Full Member

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    any type of skill learned, stance, neck roll whatever, does not give you a stronger chin.
    They are just things that you can take into your own hands to work with what you got.

    Take Oliver McCall or George Chuvalo, these guys are not defensive masterminds, but they took shots that would have laid another man flat out.
    And they did this all the time. Born that way.

    Having a good beard, or a glass jaw, is taking two different people of the same size and weight, you hit one with a bat across the jaw and he stays on his feet, the other man goes into a five day coma. Same bat, same dude hitting the guy in the jaw with the bat, different facial structures, different reactions.
    It's the same way why some guys are more prone to cuts and others aren't.
    If you have high cheekbones, this makes me more prone to cuts, there is nothing you can really do about that, except work more on defense. But if you get tagged with a shot, there are better odds that you will bleed while another guy goes on fine. You can toughen up the skin, but that doesn't mean that you are not always going to be at a disadvantage.
     
  13. Irish_Southpaw6

    Irish_Southpaw6 New Member Full Member

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    zuras is right imo look at marciano as an example