what fighter has greatest offensive abilities ever?

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  1. Iceveins

    Iceveins Puglistic Linguistics Full Member

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    Well I guess by you posting this vid people can probably assume what my answer would be lol

    After Hearns, Terry Norris may be the most handily offensively weaponed fighter I've ever seen. He threw vicious combos in bunches, used his legs tremendously and utilized every punch in the book...not only that, he could knock you out with any punch from either hand.
     
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  2. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hearns, Ray Robinson, Leonard
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Are you kidding?

    Cracking top level punch-resistance should be seen as by far the most affective way of measuring a fighter's offensive abilities! Not the ONLY factor, but if I have one fighter who has cracked numerous top chins and one that has cracked none/one, I know that that is a pretty heavy indicator of quality on offence. ESPECIALLY, as is the case here, where the former fighter fought by FAR the better fighters, more often.

    If you want to use another method, i'm happy to do that, but I don't see this one as anything other than crucial and find it pretty odd that you do. Do you think a Archie cracked these chins with defence?

    You did say, though, that you find it "hard to believe that Roy Jones is not in the top five" (or words to that affect). I thought i'd be kind and use Moore, my #5, instead of Louis, Langford or Tyson ;)

    That's cos I like you.

    But seriously, there is a "level up" affect between my #5 and my #4, who are truly elite to me. #5 could legitimately be any one of around 5 fighters. Jones isn't one of them though, I have him at #17 or #18.

    Depends. But you know that.

    As a middleweight who ended up beating Joe Louis, he was entitled. I'm happy having him lodged at the top tier of chins. Think of this - if his chin could take bombs from Marcinao and Louis, how good do you think it was at MW? Comparable to James Toney's? Jake LaMotta's? Maybe, maybe not, but it can't be far behind.

    Jones was faster, possibley less accurate, better punch variety? - very good question, i'm unsure - I pick Moore for making better angles, I call it a draw on footwork, ish.

    Agreed.

    And here is why he is not in the same class as Moore as a puncher.

    He deployed these skills in tentative way which saw him fail to score anything like the quality KO's that Moore managed. He is a reticent fighter. I think The Ring published a similair reason for having him in the 80's when it published it's puncher's list.

    If the two aren't very very close to one and the same, i'd like to hear about why.
     
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