What fighters did SRR beat that were better than Burley, C. Kid and H. Williams?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Bokaj, Oct 26, 2008.


  1. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with what your saying about the head to head thing but Burley was closer to his prime during there fights Holman had much more fights by the time they met. And while the Cocoa Kid loses are a negative he did win a trilogy with Lloyd Marshall a man who beat Burley. And while way past his best arguably deserved the decision against LaMotta. I don't understand why ppl have Burley top 20 p4p and Holman barely makes top 50. There is very little between the two guys for me these two guys are like Barrera and Morales very close in rating.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Looking at them both on film, I'm very impressed with Burley's footwork, he'd always be out of range, but in a position to slip into a beautiful. I think Burley is a better bigger puncher. He's a better counter puncher and much better timing. Looking at them (and I'm a damn good judge of strength, thats my background) I think Burley is ALLOT stronger than Gavilan

    Gavilan is a better stick and move jabber type. I disagree that Burley is faster, Gavilan possibly has the edge in speed and combination throwing but Burley throws better pot shot timed effective punches.

    In a head to head I would pick Burley to win a closer but clear decision, say 9-6, maybe knocking Gavilan down a couples of times for good measure
     
  3. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Gavilan was down 2 or 3 times in a career of nearly 150 fights. Burley could possibly drop him once, but "a couple times for good measure" is ridiculous.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not ridicolous, Burley is a supreme puncher, with great accuracy, only 1 fighter on Gavilan's record compares, Sugar himself, Basilo put Gavilan down pretty hard, now the Kid may have been past his prime but I think Burley does the same based on styles and Burley being that good
     
  5. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Given that he went 25 rounds with Robinson and never went down, and the only times he was down was early in his career to Ike Williams and past his best to Basilio, I don't think Burley would drop him. Once, maybe, but a couple of times for good measure is not happening.