The old man has told me about growing up on the Jersey Shore in the '50s, seeing some at MSG and listening to and later watching some of the greats of that era. Some guys he liked a lot were Emile Griffith, Floyd Patterson, Sonny Liston, early Cassius Clay. Always tells me about how shocking it was watching Griffith-Paret II. I think he kind of fell out during the '60s other than the HW (was always more of a baseball and football guy) and got back into it a little bit during the Sugar Ray/Hagler/Hearns era and followed peripherally until the HWs started really stinking it out in the late '90s. We've watched a few fights together, and I remember him being somewhat impressed with Bernard Hopkins' win over Tarver ('Good, but why doesn't he fight, already?') and Mosley over Vargas II.