What fights has Canelo

What else is to be used for. Your value and opinion has the same worth when asses wiped with toilet tissue.

 

Mayweather and first Golovkin fight.

 

How do you explain this?
https://i.imgur.com/TqksBde.jpg
Canelo had 14 landed punches with 27 seconds left according to Compubox.
Then Canelo landed these punches:
https://i.imgur.com/4ZnxKBP.jpg
But after all those punches, with 15 seconds left he was still stuck at 14 punches landed.
Should have been 19 landed at that point.

Then he landed 3 more punches in the final 15 seconds :
https://i.imgur.com/nFQX7QJ.jpg
But the final Totals had him still at 14 despite landing 8 more punches in the final 27 seconds.

And GGG who was stuck at 9 punches landed with 15 seconds left, ended up with 18 punches?? WTF.

This is proof that Compubox was rigged after the fact to inflate GGG's Numbers.

 

^ This is proof that shadow is delusional and sees conspiracies against his man crush

 

How do you explain those anomalies? Even you can't deny the Compubox funny business in fight 1. And you know full well how many fans used those Compubox #s to argue GGG won. This suspect Compubox Data is one of the main reasons why so many fans polled said GGG won. Now we know those numbers were highly suspect.

 

3G 1 & 2
Floyd obviously

 

I know they're misleading, like I said they're complete nonsense.

No one takes them seriously.

 

No. I have scored the punches landed in the fight myself and while my score differed from compubox slightly it followed the same general trend. It might not be 100% accurate but the number of punches as a general guideline is OK.

 

I know they're misleading, you know they're misleading. But don't tell me no one takes them seriously. Plenty of casuals think Compubox is legit and those fellacious compubox numbers from Canelo GGG 1 have absolutely led a ton of fans to think those numbers prove GGG beat Canelo the first time.

What I highlighted in post #49 goes far beyond compubox numbers just being inaccurate or prone to human error. What we saw in Canelo GGG 1 was Canelo having significantly more landed punches than GGG in Round 5 while watching the match live on HBO, then inexplicitly after the match the final numbers provided online had GGG with more landed punches, which is a mathematical impossibility given the numbers HBO provided.

We have Lampley stating Canelo was dominating GGG in terms of body punches (14-0 after 2 rounds) but then the body punch numbers mysteriously no where to be found in the post-fight numbers online. We have Lampley citing Compubox in saying that GGG landed ZERO power punches in rounds 1 and 2, then the final numbers have GGG landing 7 power punches in those 2 rounds.

This is pretty troubling don't you think. HBO's compubox numbers favoring Canelo during the match, then after the match the numbers we're fed favor GGG. How does something like this happen? And don't tell me this is human error, the numbers that HBO provided on the telecast are supposed to match the numbers provided online post-fight. Compubox numbers play a big role in who casuals and many fans think won a match. Plenty of fans after the first fight used Compubox to justify giving GGG rounds.

 

I've never spoken to a serious boxing fan who takes it seriously tbh.

I'm surprised you're so bothered by it.

 

Not too long ago I was just debating with someone about Charlo Castaño and a round that I thought Charlo won but then the poster was telling me I was wrong Charlo couldn't have won the round because the Compubox numbers were too one-sided in favor of Castaño that round. I'm bothered by it because in Canelo GGG 1 we see a clear discrepency between the live numbers during the telecast which favored Canelo and the post-fight numbers which favored GGG. A ton of people think GGG beat Canelo the first time because the supposed Compubox numbers favored GGG. If you go back to 2017 and 2018 this was a big part of the argument that GGG won.

 

That poster won't be arguing for compubox long, I wouldn't worry about it.

Most people think Golovkin won because they gave him 7 or more rounds in the fight.

Hardly anyone cares about compubox. It's a meaningless stat.

 

FFS... You need to go get a job in accounting or something. Be a CPA... boxing is NOT for you.
The idea that 3G won was NOT just because of Compubox. A ton?? How did you come up with that? Did all the ringside scorers, the LARGE majority who had 3G winning, have instant compubox #'s to quickly change their scores if the #s dictated???

No, they used their eyes and knowledge. Something you just don't try to do yourself.

 

Lance, I'm referring to the conversations I had on this very forum in the immediate aftermath of the match. GGG fans would argue with me and would cite Compubox numbers plenty of times to support their arguments. "Canelo only landed this many punches" "GGG landed more". Even you just said the idea that GGG won was NOT "just" because of Compubox. So you're admitting right there Compubox numbers were at least a PART of that idea. We know he threw more punches, but him landing more that entire premise is 100% based on Compubox numbers. And I've just proved in Post #49 that it's total BS and frankly is suspicious. I put those screenshots together Lance to make it very clear for everybody to see that something was afoot there.

 

You say that, and I'm not saying you used Compubox to influence your score. But if you followed this closely since 2017, it's very clear that those Compubox numbers played a big role in the perception that GGG deserved the win. And as misleading and inaccurate as Compubox can be, I wouldn't say they're totally meaningless. They give us a sense of who threw more punches, who threw more jabs, who threw more body shots (sometimes), etc. They're for better or for worse a part of boxing telecasts and part of the discussion. Lampley (and other commentators) referenced them an awful lot giving these numbers validity.

They generally benefit volume punches because since compubox operators guess at whether a lot of punches land, the more punches a fighter throws, chances are the more punches he'll get credit for as landing, whether or not the punches land, or how clean or hard the punches are.

All you gotta do is go back to Charlo - Castaño. But Castaño landed so many more punches, and he didn't win? OMG it was such a robbery. Where do you think that comes from? Whether people admit it or not, after the fight fans always check the compubox numbers. And it's one thing to realize they're meaningless like you, to not just take them at face value. But not everyone's like you and consciously or subconsciously, they play a role in who the majority think won a fight.

I think over time most fans realized they're unreliable, but 3 or 4 years ago there wasn't as much skepticism about Compubox. What I highlighted in post #49 is very troubling, because this is more than Compubox operators just innocently trying their best to count punches landed. What I highlighted is clear manipulation of the live numbers that favored Canelo compared to the post-fight numbers that came out online that favored GGG. We talk about corruption in boxing, what happened there is corrupt. To manipulate numbers to make GGG look better post fight, then we see a majority of fans polled saying GGG won, how do you not see a correlation between that?