What GGG/Jacobs & Ward/Kovalev taught us about GGG/Ward

And, he has never shown any vulnerability during a real pro or amateur bout, unlike Kovalev.

I guess that's the difference, then.

Kovalev is a heck of a fighter, as is Ward.

But neither one is Golovkin. Which seems to be the conclusion Boone also reached.

 

Hmmm. Interesting.

I'd rather go life and death with Jacobs than Boone. Especially when Boone knocked me down.

Anyone who went life and death with Boone is not beating Golovkin.

 

There is no "both ways.

- Kovalev has shown weakness with punch resistance in real bouts in the past

- GGG has shown no weakness with punch resistance in real bouts in the past

Again, it's just not there. As I said above, thinking someone is going to hurt GGG in a fight is like expecting Vitali is going to get hurt in a fight. It's almost certainly not going to happen. Particularly against a feather-fisted foe like Ward.

And to be honest, Golovkin has never been hurt even to the extent that Sanders and Lewis dinged Vitali.

Anyone who goes into a GGG fight thinking they are going to win a power/chin match-up is headed for a loss.

Ward's lack of power would likely be his downfall against GGG.

 

^ Just so other readers know, I do not and will not respond to dinovelvet. So do not expect a response from me now to him. I don't have time for those with poor-to-marginal boxing knowledge.

 

So let's try this again, as you seem to be struggling to grasp the concepts involved here:


- My analysis is that Ward's lack of power combined with GGG's excellent punch resistance is a major reason why GGG beats Ward

- You seem to be suggesting that Ward hurt Kovalev to the body, and thus he might hurt GGG similarly. I guess this is your thinking


So, it would seem that you're trying to make some kind of statement that Ward could potentially hurt GGG. Despite all apparent evidence from both of their careers going against such a conclusion.

No one has ever been able to make any headway against Golovkin as regards hurting him. Including harder punchers than Ward. Like Jacobs. Or Lemeiux.

There is no reason to think that changes with Ward. Even if you think Ward hurt Kovalev to the body in a way no one else ever had.

And, as I pointed out, the reason for this is that GGG has never shown any weakness to any kind of punches in any sanctioned bout. Unlike Kovalev. Kovalev has shown vulnerability in previous fights. GGG has not shown that.

So, if Ward made a gameplan to try and beat GGG and that gameplan were predicated on being able to hurt GGG, then I'd say GGG wins such a possible match-up 999 out of 1000 times.

There could be a gameplan for Ward to beat GGG. But going into a fight thinking you're going to be able to hurt GGG isn't that gameplan.

If Ward tried to hurt GGG in a bout, if he committed to that (got in the pocket and exchanged, sat down on his punches, etc), he would be stopped. I can't see any other realistic outcome.

 

As I said above, if Ward came into a fight with GGG thinking he could hurt him, there is no way he wins the fight. That's fantastical thinking, magical thinking.

I could make a gameplan to try to beat Vitali Klitschko. The gameplan would not involve me believing I am going to be able to seriously hurt him. That's a suicide mission that is likely to get me KO'd.

If a fight becomes something of a shoot-out, with both guys looking for power shots on the other, then I'm obviously going to go with the guy who has dropped or stopped every person he ever fought in 12-round fights as compared with the guy who was dropped by Darnell Boone.

It's a no-brainer.

This all comes back to why the match-up against GGG is a bad one for Ward. How do you, as an inside fighter, overcome someone who can't be hurt and who has devastating power?

And my conclusion is the same as Boone's: You don't.

As I have said many times before on the forum, Ward IS a great fighter. But he has certain limitations that don't lend themselves to victory in certain match-ups. One such match-up is Calzaghe, and another is Golovkin.

 

^ False.

I believe Ward himself felt that he hurt Kovalev to the body in their first fight. So that would have given Ward some hope heading into the second fight.

Needless to say, such 'evidence' doesn't exist for Ward going into a possible GGG fight. There is no reason to believe, for any fighter, that they are going to be able to hurt GGG in a bout. It doesn't exist.

To repeat -- bad match up for Ward. Not that Ward isn't a great fighter, just the wrong match up for him. At least when both fighters were/are in their primes.