What Good is Work Rate w/out Accuracy?

Big man without a ton of power, fighting like a little man with power. Too bad, he's got the heart and spirit, just not the style.

 

Bad trainer.

 

That level of accuracy isn't horrendous, but his style of fighting isn't the best by any stretch of the imagination given his physical attributes, namely height and reach.

 

Yeah, first off, terrible trainer. At least at the elite level, he's lost.

But like most fighters, he doesn't jab enough. He doesn't blind his opponents. Most of his punches are power punches coming from a mile away and a slick guy like Lara can see them coming a mile away. If he just threw a very good and consistent jab, he would have much more success.

 

its worked for him in the past. It's obviously not a fail-safe strategy though.

 

Landing 200 punches isn't bad. That's actually a lot that landed.

But back to the question as to why workrate and why it's good even if it's not accurate:

When you're throwing shots, you're preventing your opponent from throwing back, effectively turning your offense into defense because you cannot into defense.

Let's be serious. Not everybody is a gifted counterpuncher or defensive fighter. This is why workrate becomes the way for people to equalize the boxing ring for those who can't fight as well going back to just go forward, because they can't win in a pure outboxing fight. This is how they are afforded a chance to win.

Because you can get countered to a swelling face for 12 rounds, but if your opponent doesn't punch with you, you're still going to win the fight because you "worked harder" than the other guy, you put yourself under risk to throw more leather.

And even if you say it's not accurate, hitting a guy on his arms or gloves also effectively stops the other guy from throwing back. Those punches aren't counted in landed punches, but they still do their job: they stop the other guy from hitting you more. It's a viable strategy and it works.

The problem with workrate is that it leaves you more open to the occasional counter or that you tire faster, so it's not really all that viable for many people.

Accuracy isn't everything in boxing. But then again, a lot of things individually isn't everything in boxing.

That said, workrate, a very high one, can also provide for a good fight because if both guys won't throw as many shots, people normally say it's a boring fight. This is why a lot of lower weight fighters are deemed very exciting, because people throw a lot.

 

Good breakdown on the viability of a high workrate :thumbsup

 

You know, the OP's question raises another question:

Just what is the definition of a "landed" punch, according to compubox?

If you hit the other fighters gloves, (because he blocked) what is that? Kind of meaningless, but does it count?

If you hit the other fighters arms? - Somewhat meaningful, but not much.

What if you connect with his head, but he pulls back so the punch really doesn't have any effect? - And can the judges even tell when this happens?

IMO, williams score of "200 landed" was generous.

 

Landed shots are only counted if you hit the guy's head or open body. Hitting the extremities or below the belt are not counted in the landed punch total. That's why even Pacquiao, who basically hit Clottey's almost 100 percent never even got close to a 100 percent punch landed count. Because punching someone's arms or gloves don't count as landed.

If you connect with a punch, even if it doesn't have an effect, it's still a punch and it will still count, and it will still score.

That's like saying if you hit Margarito square in the face, you're not going to count it as a punch land if he's just going to brush it away.

 

Who wins this fight ? Boxer on Right or Left ?


Jabs
Landed------ 30---------------91
Thrown------ 129--------------297
Percent------ 23% ------------31%

Power Punches
Landed----- 173-------------- 66
Thrown----- 377-------------- 151
Percent----- 46%-------------- 44%

Total Punches
Landed----- 203----------- 157
Thrown----- 506----------- 448
Percent-----40%----------- 35%

 

Joe Calzaghe

 

That sound like khan!

 

There's a shed load of variables you've left out