What great fighter did Roy Jones Jr. beat?

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  1. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    His best wins are a weight-drained Toney and a green Hopkins.
    Besides that he defeated fighters like Richard Frazier,Bryant Brannon,a mediocre heavyweight like John Ruiz...etc.....
    Why do some people consider him as one of the best purely based on talent alone?He has the worst pedigree of all the champions and fought poor competition....
    To be really considered as one of the best ever you need talent,heart and fight the best contenders available.
     
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  2. AliFrazier71

    AliFrazier71 Member Full Member

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    What is the point of this thread?
     
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  3. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His best wins:

    1. James Toney (great win)
    2. Green Bernard Hopkins (nearly great win)

    Other notable wins are definitely Virgil Hill and John Ruiz (because it was at heavyweight).
     
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  4. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    I agree...some boxing fans are so ****ed up that makes me wanna stop watching the sport....according to them there are hardly any great fighters ...what criteria do you come up with to make these judgements its just beyond me:lol:
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    1 - John Ruiz. Beatin Ruiz at HW is his most serious achievment. That's a great win. How many guys at around this weight could build beat Ruiz?

    2 - Hopkins. Good win over a to be dominant champion.

    3 - Toney. Good win over the p4p #2 even alllowing for James Toney's weight drained condition.


    I agree that Jones' resume v his talent is ridiculous. But there it is.
     
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  6. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Roy beat two great fighters in the form of Hopkins and Toney. Hopkins wasn't at his peak in that fight but he was near it. Let's also not forget that Roy wasn't at his peak either. The whole weight drained argument is ridiculous when you talk about the Toney fight. Toney was completely dominated in that fight.

    As far as Roy taking on the best contenders available, that's exactly what he did at LHW. The only top contender that he didn't fight was DM. Besides him, he took on everyone at LHW. If someone disagrees, please name some top contenders from Roy's era at LHW that he didn't fight besides DM.
     
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  7. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Nice way to discredit his win over Toney.

    I hate people
     
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  8. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Weight drained or not, he made Toney look like a douche.
     
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  9. MJRJJ23

    MJRJJ23 Active Member Full Member

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    Who's your #1 boxer and I gaurantee you that I can pick his resume apart. While Roy's resume isn't the greatest its very solid.
    Toney
    Bhop
    Ruiz
    Griffin
    Hill
    McCallum
    Tarver
    Trinidad (eventhough blown up)
    Woods
    Gonzalez
    Kelly
    Paz
     
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  10. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Jones has an extremely underrated resume
     
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  11. MJRJJ23

    MJRJJ23 Active Member Full Member

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    :good
     
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  12. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    would he have beat hopkins in a rematch...always wondered..
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Like everyone else.
     
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  14. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No point whatsoever other than some fool gets to put his stupidity and ignorance on display.
     
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  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy Jones has one of the very best resumes in the history of the sport.
     
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