What happend to Melvin Guillard?....

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by DeadlyOverhand, Jan 23, 2012.


  1. DeadlyOverhand

    DeadlyOverhand Active Member Full Member

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    I thought he was controling the fight until he started getting wild.....again. He always tends to go wild and lose a fight that he was winning. His explosiveness helps him control a wrestler and BJJ expert, but then he starts to throw flying knees and going for a takedown that he ends up paying for. I sparred with Guillard a couple years back and he is very technical and a great counterpuncher and his wrestling is outstading, he just tends to get to hyped up and throw something stupid. :patsch
     
  2. Stoo

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    I think you nailed it fella, a rare mixed of overconfidence in his abilities and a complete lack of composure and heart when the **** hits the fan and the fight turns against him and he realises he's not as good as he thinks he is.

    Let's face it, nobody is as good as Mel thinks he is
     
  3. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    Does it every time no idea why he does it though. He looked very good standing up against J-Lau and Miller but does the same mistake every time. Like Stoo says overconfidence is his big problem. I've only seen one fight where he actually looked like he stuck to a plan think it was Stephens? Very talented guy but plays to his strenghts in his wrestling against fighters who want him to do it. Needs to stick to a game plan against these guys who are dangerous off their back.
     
  4. Stoo

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    Id like to add he has a complete lack of respect for his opponents too, guess that falls under overconfidence

    Im hard pressed to think of a fight where he fought off a submission, he just quits

    He'll continue to look like a stud in the Fight Night cards and a complete Chump on the PPV's when he steps up in class
     
  5. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    I agree with that him saying the J-Lau loss was a fluke was incredibly disrespectful. If you go to the ground with J-Lau you are in for a hard nights work. I can't think of many fighter who have as much wins by submission to as many different subs
     
  6. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has nine submission losses. Evidently his BJJ coach is Chael Sonnen.
     
  7. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    He has low cage IQ. Fighting Jim Miller, a workhorse wrestler who wants to get it to the ground and control you... stick a flying knee or four in there. Genius.
     
  8. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    great athlete but a dumb fighter.
     
  9. Ai-edy2007

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  10. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Melvin is very talented. He has quality speed, power and agility.

    It is not mystery when NINE out of his TEN losses are by way of submission.

    On top of his average grappling base, his strong point is the striking and he uses his talent in a bragging, impatient, style over technique sort of way. Even against Miller he was flying in with knees. The one thing about Mayweather that sets him apart is he doesn't out talent opponent, he out techniques them! No matter what comes out of his mouth he always fights with complete respect for his opponents speed, strength, size and power.

    Guillard needs to work on the fundamentals of his striking. Its all mental, he just needs to be patient, work behind a jab and TIME the flashy ****. Plus he clearly needs to work on his grappling and jits hardcore. 2 RNC in a row, admittedly against good grapplers but nothing he won't face against the majority of the top lightweights.
     
  11. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    It's all been said, nothing I can add to this discussion other than he will either reflect on his losses, hone his grappling skills, and reach his potential.. Or go on his way.

    I appreciate all competitors, but a lot of them need to prioritize their training.. If they did, the sport would evolve overnight, and every UFC championship would be in rotation like a fat bowl of dank.
     
  12. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ^This. Nothing happened to Guillard. He's still the same guy that he's always been which is troubling considering the fact that he's fighting professionally for a decade. It should be obvious by now that he's never going to turn the corner and be able to compete consistently against top competition. He has all of the physical tools to be champion, and a dominant one at that, but he's just not there mentally. The guy's cage (and actual) IQ are incredibly low, and he gets by purely on athleticism. Mark my words. Once he loses a step, he's going to drop off of the face of the MMA landscape so fast that he won't know what hit him.
     
  13. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Melvin Guillard was just being Melvin Guillard. :roll:

    He's the Zab Judah of MMA but with less talent.
     
  14. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He thought he could win the way Aldo did
     
  15. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    I don't know if anyone else thought of this at the time, but I remember myself watching his entrance before the Lauzon fight, him clowning and jumping around and all that. After seeing that I was almost sure he would lose that fight. I mean, the guy went in there acting like he was about to face some bum off the street.