What happened to Hrgovic?

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  1. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As long as Joshua is Hearn's main attraction it would be foolish for any ambitious HW contender to sign with him.
     
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  2. Koli55

    Koli55 Active Member Full Member

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    Hopefully Kalle is right on this one.

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    People need to remember that Matchroom is only Hrgovic's co-promoter. Wasserman (Sauerland) has been his promoter for much longer and haven't been able to do the big fights. I think Hearn and Kalle will now try to do a final eliminator for Hrgovic vs Zhang, Parker or Ortiz who has already said no to that fight.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed. Even if you do sign with Hearn, and you do actually get a fight with Joshua, and you do WIN, Hearn looks out for Joshua's interests over yours by forcing you to agree to a rematch clause and a lower purse than Joshua for the return.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

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    Didn't seem to hamper Usyk's career much when he signed a co promotional deal with Matchroom. Got him a title shot and ensured he wasn't robbed on the cards.
     
  5. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about? Usyk was Joshua's WBO mandatory for a long time. He signed with Matchroom (copromotion) to get his shot.
    He is still with K2. Look at the cards: the local man was trying his best to give the fight to Joshua. He had them even after round 10!

    Thank the WBO regulation, not Hearn and MR.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk just had to agree to a rematch clause (even though Usyk was the mandatory), had to agree to take a lesser purse than Joshua for the rematch if he should win (which he did) and Usyk was denied a unification with Tyson Fury ... because Usyk has to fight Joshua again.

    Other than that ... :duh
     
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  7. red corner

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    Hrgovic will fight Ortiz for new latest IBF eliminator if tis promoter decides to ante up. Promotional issues plague his career.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

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    Could of been worse could of gotten robbed like Fury vs Wilder in fight 1. Could of then been tied into another 2 fights to secure a 2nd fight too.

    Joshua is the far bigger draw the fact Usyk won doesn't change that fact. Mosley didn't get more than De La Hoya in their rematch, neither have countless other boxers when facing a cash cow in a rematch. It's pretty standard practice to have rematch clauses and for cash cows to maintain a larger purse split.

    Also Usyk has done very well working with Hearn. He was making 400K in the WBSS. But made 1 mill vs Bellew, 1.5 mill vs Witherspoon and 2.5 mill vs Chisora and 3 mill vs Joshua plus a share of the PPV. Uysk has likely made more money with Matchroom in 4 fights than all his other fights combined. His rematch with Joshua will likely pocket him several million.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He would of got his shot even without signing with Matchroom just like countless others have, Povetkin, Pulev, Parker etc.

    So when there's a robbery on a Matchroom card it's Hearn's fault, but when there isn't a robbery like many expected, myself included then it's down to the shining beacon of impropriety that is a boxing sanctioning body, lol.
     
  10. Dubblechin

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    Bellew. Chazz Witherspoon. Derek Chisora.

    Good thing the WBO decided to make Usyk the mandatory at heavyweight before he ever had a fight there, or Hearn's matchmaking would've stalled Usyk out just like Hearn stalls the careers of other heavyweights who sign with him.

    Hearn can't take credit for the WBO naming Usyk #1 mandatory at heavyweight.

    He fed Usyk the same slugs ... then, when the WBO ordered the fight, demanded a rematch clause for Joshua if he lost, lesser pay for Usyk than Joshua for the return if Usyk beat Joshua, and blocked a unification between Usyk and Fury.

    You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd.

    Usyk won "despite" Hearn, because the WBO insisted Joshua fight him.
     
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  11. CleneloAnavarez

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    Can you claim with a straight face that the judge Foster was not influence by Matchroom?
    You simply didn't understand my comment. The only reason Usyk could even fight Joshua is the WBO. Without the special rule for great champs Joshua would have never fought a guy like Usyk.

    You are pretending as if Matchroom was happy to have Usyk fight AJ.
     
  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    You get bad refs and refs that clearly favour the promoter that's nothing new and not something Hearn and Matchroom have a monopoly on. I fully expected Usyk to get robbed insinuated it numerous times prior to the fight like many others did, we all know boxing is corrupt and Matchroom is no different but fact is Usyk got the decision.

    And you are pretending that Joshua somehow ducks opponents or is fearful of taking dangerous fights, it's Joshua we are talking about not Wilder lol. He didn't have to fight Wlad, he didn't have to unify with Parker, he didn't need to chase Wilder and offer him numerous record paydays. Joshua's track record is pretty clear, he never tried to duck Usyk, hence why he fought him.
     
  13. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not for mandatory defences. MR has rematch clauses for damn near everything.
    Mosley was a voluntary defence.
     
  14. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk is dangerous but without the $. I am not a Wilder fanatic so don't bother with inserting him into this argument.