what happened to james toney and why?

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  1. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    what happened to james toney and why?
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    he has eaten too much
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Hes arrogant. He thinks he can come into fights out of shape and still win. Hes gotten so round, he cant even throw combinations anymore. Its ashame, because the dude is like 5'9 and he could have beaten just about all the heavyweights out there, if he came into a fight in shape. Hes old and done now.
     
  4. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    thats what i mean , what a waste. he was impressive and could have been one of the best of all time , i do have him as my greatest defensive fighter in his prime.
     
  5. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yes and unlike Whitaker he had a little power and would fire back and create some exciting wins. I really enjoyed watching Toney when hes in shape. Hes another freak of nature that has the skills to compete in weight classes he really doesnt belong.
     
  7. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BURGER KING happened.
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Beyond the weight struggles after his MW days his falling out with his manager, who was a sister like figure to him, more then likely didn't help matters.
     
  9. SteveO

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    Let his ego and weight get to him.
     
  10. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when you get down and shed all the parts of toney and get right down too it ..it's his ego that was his fault
     
  11. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arrogance and laziness/(or whatever it is that looks like an outright hatred for training or staying in shape) are a very bad combination for a fighter.

    Maybe Toney couldn't have kept himself at middleweight much long after the Jones fight, but he could have had a great potential career at Light Heavyweight or Cruiser. He was content to **** it all away though, and try to win on sheer talent rather than hone his skills and keep his body sharp.
     
  12. kolcade4

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    it honestly was a dissapointment, he had so much talent. im not kidding, i thought he had the potential to be one of the greatest.
     
  13. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Wanderer's got it right. Arrogance and Laziness is what killed Toney's career, and his recent drug problems didn't help him either.

    For a fighter that demonstrated "phone-booth" defense, Toney was a monumental dissapointment that could have been one of the best fighters of all time.
     
  14. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too much training wears the body down and shortens careers. Also, a boxer can be weakened considerably from stressful weight loss, a la Eddie Mustafa Muhammad. Jumbo Jimbo did not succumb to those pitfalls, but instead conserved himself. (And as we all can see, he's conserved a great big deal of himself.)

    Next stop: An eating contest with Beanfart, and special guest appearances on, "Man versus Food."
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I used to love Toney, had a poster of him on my wall. Post-Jones Jr. he took a real slide, then came back from the brink. However, his image and legacy is a bit tainted from positive steroid tests.