What happened to Joe Joyce?

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  1. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No... he got dropped and stopped by kuzmin
     
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  2. ShortRound

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    Ali got stopped in the amateurs a couple of times too and not by 250 lbs monsters but by LHW's.
     
  3. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorted that for you
     
  4. ShortRound

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    Kuzmin's shape varies but it's irrelevant: he was a 250 lbs star amateur, not some unknown LHW or journeyman like the guys who KO'd or put Ali over early in his career. Not a 19% KO ratio cruiser like Jimmy Young, who put prime Foreman on his ass.
     
  5. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you think Joyce beats foreman?
     
  6. ShortRound

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    Yes, he has massive advantages over 70's "big George" that no amount of nostalgia can bridge.
     
  7. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And you came to this conclusion after watching Joyce look very pedestrian against the murderers row of passed it and/or dog**** opposition he has faced in his long and storied 13 fight career? . Lol ok
     
  8. Finkel

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    I see things a bit differently. I think it is foolish for him to jump in with the elite Fury, Usyk, Joshua, Wilder

    Natural progression would be: Parker, Ruiz, Whyte, Pulev, Ortiz, Sanchez, Helenius, Chisora, Bakole, Wallin

    After that step up to the elite, but in reality Joyce hasn't progressed his opposition since Jennings in 2019. Time is against him, but it would benefit him to fight a solid opponent before the very top of the division.
     
  9. Betyabeatyaup

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    Who disagrees with that? Shouldn’t that tell you something about his skills…
    Thanks for answering in the affirmative lol
     
  10. Betyabeatyaup

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    Yeah, so you see in this sport called boxing they sometimes punch each other in the face and th….
     
  11. Dannymita

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    Tells me he's fighting no hopers...and getting consistently tagged by them...good signs for when he fights someone good.....
     
  12. ShortRound

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    I don't rate "big George's" relatively small, overwhelmingly American opposition from 50 years ago nearly as highly as you do. I also don't rate getting put over by light puncher's, gassing out and losing to them.
     
  13. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not just me that rates him highly..I believe many well respected boxing historians...fans etc...rate big George quite highly.

    And on that note we're flogging a dead horse here...your trying to sell me a bag of **** and calling it gold....but I'll revisit this topic in a few years to either eat humble pie or be proved right by Joyce ending up getting bombed
     
  14. fencik45

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    He also got dropped by pudgy 205 lb Joe Frazier who couldn't even lift his own weight. Completely unathletic, couldn't ride a bike or swim, Sucked at every athletic endeavor except boxing.
     
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  15. ShortRound

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    Joyce may get dropped or bombed out but I doubt it will be by some 6'1-6'2, 200-210 lbs fighter with a sub-20% KO ratio. If it happens it will probably be by some 6'5+ SHW KO artist. Joyce, like Foreman, is slower than the vast majority of his opponents who aren't bums but it hasn't prevented him from being effective, even going back to the amateurs where his attributes were not so strongly favoured.