What happened to PAC's right hook?

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  1. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    All Manny threw all ****ing night was the straight left. Rinse and repeat. Bradley had pretty much figured out how to avoid in from the 7th onwards. You would think the right hand would have been even more of a factor with Bradley constantly turning him, but nothing. It was pretty much non-existent in the Mosley and Marquez fights, too.
     
  2. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was sitting next to aa boxing coach at the fight and i asked him about it. And i said why isnt he following 2 by throwing a 3 and he said pac is not at the right distance to.
     
  3. Freddie said it was the plan to avoid TIMS head coming down on Pacs right eye.
     
  4. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    basically, Timmeh's movement was effective against emmanuel
     
  5. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Let's be honest, though: If Pac wants to close the distance, he can do it. And he didn't even have to use it as combo. Quite often he would just lead with the right hook. Not so in the last three fights. The movement must really **** with him throwing that punch.
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    No, he can't.

    Super Shot Oldsley, Juan, and now Timmeh controlled the distance with their footwork.
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    He threw the right hook to the body occasionally. He's still pretty much rather one handed now again.
     
  8. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He could have also went to the body more. The straight left was going to the body as well when he did use it, so could the right hook and take his legs away. With the injury bradley had, and pac going to the body it might have ended up similar to foreman-cotto.
     
  9. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What happened to PAC's right hook?

    What happened to PAC's counterpunching?

    What happened to PAC's overall aggression?

    Don't tell me it's age. He's not THAT old, esp for a welterweight. I've watched the fight 4 times now, and each time it's more obvious that Pac was trying to (subtly) throw the fight.

    I am 100% convinced this was the case, on Arum's orders, & I can't believe no one else sees this.
     
  10. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he had bradley hurt a few times and didn't go for the kill if that's what you mean. i certainly questioned why he didn't go in for the kill. it's not like bradley had the type of power to scare him if he got a little reckless.
     
  11. bachatu

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    throughout the fight he seemed to be having issues with distance and timing. Sometimes he was too close and sometimes too far. It seemed hail marrying the straight left was the only thing that proved effective. But his variation in punches seemed less than usual in this fight. lack of feints as well as going downstairs/upstairs, as well as lack of right hand was missing.
     
  12. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this may sound crazy but i think bradley's inability to get out of the way from the left cross caused pac to go back to being left hand crazy and not mix his punches or even attempt to and it made him into a one handed fighter again. it's one of those if it ain't broken don't fix it.
     
  13. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He threw the fight so convincingly that 48-3 ringside journalists thought that he won convincingly? And Harold Lederman scored it 10-2 on HBO? And everybody in the world is calling it a robbery?

    If he was trying to throw the fight, why wouldn't he actually try and throw the fight? Can you explain that?
     
  14. punchy88

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    For someone that relies on perpetual movement, intensity, and raw athletic traits he is old. **** some of you people are clueless.
     
  15. slantone

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    Yeah I was expecting him to step in and hook over the jab , even if it meant him eating a second jab, that shot looked there for him all night. Also he didnt throw the lead ducking left that he threw so much durin his prime, nor follow with the right to the body. He s clearly slipped , physically but also a bit in his tactics and creativity and shot variety also. Perhaps with smaller faster fighters he feels the need to be more conventional and with bigger guys he takes more creative chances. Still what he was doing was enough. I just wish he would throw the left uppercut when tim ducked but instead he keep trying the shovel hook. It was a good perf but if I didn't know who PAC was I wouldn't say that's an all time fighter based off his offensive arsenal . In the heyday his offense was a thing of varied and inspired beauty .