What Happened to Plans "B", "C" & "D"???

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  1. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From the get-go, it was apparent that Plan "A" (whatever that was) wasn't working. I kept waiting for Lowe to tell Kelly to impliment Plan "B", but it never happened.

    Did they even have any other plans hammered out, or is Kelly as one-dimensional as many say he is??? They were counting on a KO to solve the Hopkins problem.

    Then, in the last few rounds, Lowe wasn't even inside the ring...he had nothing to offer, just let the cut man tend to his face.

    It was sad, for sure. But he'll be back!
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The fighter is responsible for their own performance.
     
  3. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    What plan b c and d all I heard from Loew is double up on the jab . He was clueless in that corner !
     
  4. Sean101

    Sean101 Active Member Full Member

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    i think Loew should of spent more time taking Hopkins seriously instead of slagging off Calzaghe
     
  5. Small Print

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    Your trainer should offer advice and tips though. Most good trainers should pick up on things that could help. All I heard in the Pavlik corner last night was "You've gotta throw that double jab."

    He didn't notice that Hopkins had rendered his jab useless.
     
  6. aceshigh

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    Loew is worthless. He did not earn his cut of that 3 mill.
     
  7. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what I'm talking about. Neither fighter or trainer seemed very flexible. Kellys a good fighter, but against a legend, it was a whole different story.

    Not taking away a damn thing from Hopkins, I really think Kelly couldn't get it going...whether it be Hopkins fault or not...he just couldn't get off. He was caught up in the moment. It happens.
     
  8. Imperial1

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    Not only thatr he couldn't get anything going but what options did his corner offer ? Everytime he kept saying double up on the jab Kelly should of been I can't he keeps countering ..But since he said nothing Loew kept repeating the same crap over and over !
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    Pavlik's not a rookie, nor an idiot. I'm not sure how much direction he really needs. Nobody had to tell him what he was trying was ineffective - he was feeling it. How much do you think a different voice in the corner would have changed the outcome?
     
  10. Imperial1

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    Ask any boxer who has had success with diffrent trainers ..
     
  11. Bonavena25

    Bonavena25 Vamos! Full Member

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    I knew it was all rubbish before the fight. Hatton said the same thing before Mayweather.

    What happened to all the body work Pavlik was going to implement? Pftt
     
  12. JETSKI

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    Maybe not just corner advice during the fight, but what about the mental preparation & fight planning in the weeks leading up to the fight? Did they do enough homework regarding that stuff, which is crucial to the outcome of the fight.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

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    34 fights into their career? Cite some examples of guys who lost fights that far along in whole or part because of their trainer and then turned around and won fights on a similar stage in whole or part because of their trainer.
     
  14. Small Print

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    Well, I think the fact that Pavlik had been blasting through opponents using the double jab and straight right was a problem in this fight. No other ways of fighting. I think if he had a great strategist or trainer in the corner, he could have at least put up a fight and adjusted a bit. They could have noticed something, say for example: "Bernards dropping his left when he comes in", and they could have taken advantage of some exploits (there had to be some, no fighter is absolutely perfect.)

    Also, a different trainer could have helped develop new ideas and areas in training, which would have helped a lot.

    I still think Hopkins would have won, because he's just too experienced and good for Pavlik, but I think it could have been closer with a better trainer.
     
  15. kracka81

    kracka81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah loew didnt have nething to offer i hope pave fires him if it wasnt for his power he wouldnt have made it this far in his career